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I think you're more than welcome to come up with ideas, suggestions or concepts for those objects . I don't think talk of the tree is actually getting in the way of that. It just seems to me like no one really has any solid enough ideas yet to be getting on with them.

Did you mean test-object's trunk? What do you want to be done with it? Just a clean mockup, or the trunk polished up in some way (how?)? Or were you talking about the Ross/Gambit trunk above... (second sentence seems to sound like that). If so, does that mean that one's still being considered? I'm getting confused here.

 

Okay, glad to hear that Gambit's idea is still a possible option. I'll look forward to what he can come up with then. And I'll hope it gets a very positive reaction too .

About the catapult - I take it with the dirty one you don't mean dirty as in textures? Just going by what you've said about textures before. More as in rough form (and shading) then?

MDM: I like the "pivot" thing in the middle. Good to see a little more detail there. It's nice and clean, but I feel it's a little chunky at the moment. Maybe it's just those bits at the sides though... that make it look blocky (I think that's a better word for it). Also, I know it's a concept, but the not quite perfect circle (polygonal 3D I assume) kind of puts me off a bit. I don't know whether it would be easy to just do over that outer edge with a clean vector circle. If it's quick and easy to do, it might at least help to convince picky people like me! I guess it's not too important at this stage though.

 

But then no one talking for weeks has also happened, and the way I see it is that any talking is better than none at all! But I'm happy to go on to other things now. So lets talk about the catapult :P.

 

Personally, I love this design! It's not too 'silly', yet it's interesting, and has/is a plain and simple design that fits in to Sonic's world with charm.

 

I made the ends curvier. I thickened the top portion because in the original it was too thin, that was the reason why it looked fat compared to the sprite. So that helped it look thinner. I darkened it a bit overall and then even more on the shadow. The shadow is thicker on the sprite, and that is really the only thing making mine still look chubby I didn't want the shadow any bigger really though.

Another thing to note is that when rotated it, the catapult has a different design which is more like triangle spikes. It would make sense it was more curved to cradle the ghora. But I suppose its up to what the staff thinks.

 

I like the shape a lot more now, and you're right - the extra shadow (and placement) helps a lot!

 

In addition to what CK said about the curves, they should be round enough to accommodate the ghora, here's a couple ideas I just rough edited in that you might test out.

 

I thought Canned Karma was referring to the inside of the the catapult, the outside would form a half circle like you edited. I gave it a shot, but it didn't look right.

 

Details like the layered design on the underside of Gambit's modification could be used to create some consistency between objects, such as the vine platform and this catapult.

 

I think the color of it is consistent enough along with all the blue you are getting from the level blocks. It doesn't need the exact same bevel, in fact, that's boring.

 

Reality Check.

After marathon reading this thread in the last hour, I have to point something out.

On March 22nd, test-object posted the "first" tree Here (As far as I know).

On August 25th, the tree became final (for the time being).

5 months.

Doesn't somebody think there "may" be a problem with the current system when it took 5 solid months of bickering to decide on a tree. A fucking. Tree.

Although what do I know, I'm just a newguy/outsider who's pissing himself laughing/smashing his head against a desk reading some of the posts.

Notably ICEKnight pointing this out back in May, The Michael Jackson line actually made sense, DigitalDuck points out the obvious, You all know this is true, The very point the tree thing got ridiculous, and The very point EVERYONE crossed the line.

Seriously.

I understand the community idea allowed everyone to contribute and to be able to make this the kind of game that everyone wants.

But the way it's working is like this:

Someone posts a concept > Everyone points out the flaws in it > Someone fixes the flaws > Someone else points out either more flaws, or an "alternative" solution > People point out flaws in alternate solution > Someone fixes flaws in alternate solution > Someone points out flaws in alternate solution, presents another alternate solution that the designer of original concept does not like > Repeat from beginning > Continue for 5 months > Decide to make a concept final, not because it's perfect, but because everyone is fucking tired of the discussion.

That is literally a summary of the last 5 months in this thread.

I congratulate everyone in this thread who actually tried to work on something else to keep the productivity going. As for everyone who refused to let the tree issue die, you're the reason Sonic2HD will never, ever see the light of day.

 

I made the same rant last month - nothing changed.

 

It is raster therefor it is invalid for being final.
Its final when staff goes ahead and makes their own tree and/or traces that tree into 2D vector.
I'm not too handy with Illustrator outside of logo design, but I try and help where I can with my rasters.
It isn't a shock that it can't be accepted since the rules have been made quite clear from the beginning and referenced to by staff time and time again. But I try and help with what I can with what I know.