General Project Thread & Feedback

Thank you, my friend was very curious about it. He was seriously impressed with what he saw. Is there a site or portfolio available with Scan's other works?

Also, everything about the new graphics look very good, except for Robotnik. He looks like a card board cut out to me.

 

Nah, I never knew about that. But I'm glad they did, the only thing I'm not too keen on is the small flowers. They just look odd.

 

And it looks like I'm not the only one who shares this feeling.

 

He also did most if not all of the animation for it as well. CN was helping him but I'm not sure what exactly it was he was helping with.

 

What I mean is, what's "worked on" (ie. is being used - made by the community - but just edited a little and 'finalised') and what's replaced completely with something entirely different? Last I heard "All the Badniks were scrapped and redesigned", and of course the engine itself. So I suppose I'm asking what's been kept and finalised which was done by the community? All of it, some of it, or none of it?

 

I would honestly say the way things have went today is that Sonic 2 HD doesn't even deserve to be listed in the Community Projects forum. In fact, it doesn't even deserve a forum at all. This is supposed to be a community project, and you can make up all the bullshit you want but due to certain issues, it's not. It's just six developers working on a remake.

Also, what about the Sonic Retro staff who provided webspace and posting rights to the front page just for today to be a shambles? I have talked about this before, but due to the amount of sheer shit this project has faced, it's obvious that Sonic Retro staff need to be overseeing this project to ensure that work is done fairly and correctly in good time.

People have spent years contributing hard to this project, so it's okay for all that work to be replaced with in-house material? If this isn't going to become like a community project should be like, S2HD should just be a thread in Engineering & Reverse Engineering.

 

The only thing I've seen that is the same as the TD is the grass. When I drew it (I drew it's.. concepts. Whatever, It looked exactly the same) I was staff, so I guess that doesn't count. So... nothing?

Actually, I think the palm tree is based of Master Emerald's original, just heavily edited.

 

Yeah, Sonica's grass was the initial concept, Sciz refined it, and then I took what he had and refined it further.

 

Do you know anything about the palm tree? It looks overall like ME's, just Uber-ized.

 

We based the new tree on the older versions as well as the end cutscene trees.

Oh, and here's something I made awhile ago. Parts of it have been updated since, but.

 

Stupidity around the buildup aside, I think it looks nice. The trailer's certainly better than Sega's attempts with Sonic 4.

Though Emerald Hill Zone does look needlessly bright. I don't know why the sky/sea has got lighter, or why the rings were changed. And I can't help but feel the new title screen is a step backwards. It's all nice art, but it's not what I personally would consider the logical upgrade to Sonic 2's set. Perhaps these things should have been... discussed? With the community, maybe?

 

Those new graphics for EHZ are perfect. Good job. Look forward to the alpha. :D

 

So you're pretty much accepting submissions and touching up on them how you see fit? (You being the S2HD Main Staff) So, it's technically still a community project, but then again not. ...Or perhaps I'm over thinking.

In regards to the title-screen, I've already said it, but it's fantastic. Though, admittedly, I prefer the other one.

 

Ooh, the new EHZ looks a lot more cheery! Brilliant stuff!

Question, do the trees blow in the wind? It looks as if they do.

I guess it's possible to have that opinion, but personally, I'm happy to see some custom stuff, even as big as the title screen.
I also think that the bright Emerald Hill is sooo much more relaxing.

Edit:
Just noticed the new grass shading, nice touch!

 

I like the palm tree leaves in the new version, they really remind me of Monkey Island

 

Umm, what are you guys going on about? I know of the drama crap that's going down in here but I couldn't care less. I also understand there was 10 or so seconds of footage shown for EHZ act 1, and that's why I was asking if we would at some time get a video of the full stage (if we don't get the alpha before too long).

Even though I've always had a preference for deeper blues in skies and oceans, this makes the stage stand out more as a colorful and happy stage, as well as helping Sonic not blend colors with the background. I love it.

 

I'll keep the war out of this, but I will say that I am a little underwhelmed. I expected something like this to happen though. But that's all I'll say.

For constructive criticism, I can relate to the opinion that the game is a little too bright. But only parts of it.

- I like the newer sky much better than the old one, the coloration fits much better with what a real sky should look like
- I like the newer palm trees more than the old ones, much more detailed and natural looking (better shading too)
- the ocean's darker color in the old one is the main thing I think is better in the old one than the new one. I think it would look great with the newer sky. Just the color tone though, I like what you've done with reflections and such
- new waterfall is definitely better, though I'm a little weirded out about the vertical white lines that are present, they look out of place...
- the new crater hills in the background are much more detailed. Though I really miss the old darker shades. The crater itself looks too light imo
- I like the larger flowers in the background field of the old one more. Though this may be an issue with scrolling or something, I dunno. The new ones look too small imo, not enough chance to admire the detail
- nothing wrong with the new bridge posts, I love them. Though again, I'd see about darkening the colors of the logs on the side a little. The new details though are again great and I wouldn't want them to change

Details are definitely better in the newer version. But I just think SOME of the colors (not all) could use a little darkening.