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  1. <!--quoteo(post=547447:date=Jan 16 2011, 02:02 PM:name=AerosolSP)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AerosolSP @ Jan 16 2011, 02:02 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547447">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=547444:date=Jan 16 2011, 10:56 AM:name=Mythrill)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mythrill @ Jan 16 2011, 10:56 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547444">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=547443:date=Jan 16 2011, 01:51 PM:name=AerosolSP)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AerosolSP @ Jan 16 2011, 01:51 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547443">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Fill me in too, cause I thought I was in the loop, but I have no idea what you're getting at.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Go to the project's main page, located at <a href="http://www.s2hd.sonicretro.org/" target="_blank">http://www.s2hd.sonicretro.org/</a> and see if there's any complete footage of Emerald Hill act 1.
    That is all.
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    Footing? :psyduck:

    Nonetheless, I get it. Sorta.
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    Sorry, I meant footage. As in: a pre-recorded video of actual gameplay.
     
  2. OSM

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    Just a quick question, who was in charge of the video editing for the teaser and the logo?
     
  3. Aerosol

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    <!--quoteo(post=547449:date=Jan 16 2011, 11:08 AM:name=Mythrill)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mythrill @ Jan 16 2011, 11:08 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547449">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=547447:date=Jan 16 2011, 02:02 PM:name=AerosolSP)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AerosolSP @ Jan 16 2011, 02:02 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547447">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=547444:date=Jan 16 2011, 10:56 AM:name=Mythrill)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mythrill @ Jan 16 2011, 10:56 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547444">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=547443:date=Jan 16 2011, 01:51 PM:name=AerosolSP)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AerosolSP @ Jan 16 2011, 01:51 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547443">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Fill me in too, cause I thought I was in the loop, but I have no idea what you're getting at.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Go to the project's main page, located at <a href="http://www.s2hd.sonicretro.org/" target="_blank">http://www.s2hd.sonicretro.org/</a> and see if there's any complete footage of Emerald Hill act 1.
    That is all.
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    Footing? :psyduck:

    Nonetheless, I get it. Sorta.
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    Sorry, I meant footage. As in: a pre-recorded video of actual gameplay.
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    That's why I only sorta get it. He said that he WANTS to see a playthrough of Act 1, not that there was one.
     
  4. Endri

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    <!--quoteo(post=547450:date=Jan 16 2011, 02:08 PM:name=OSM)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (OSM @ Jan 16 2011, 02:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547450">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just a quick question, who was in charge of the video editing for the teaser and the logo?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->It looks very Slingersesque to me, if you know what I mean. But, considering how supa-seekrit-you-cant-haz this project has become, I doubt anyone other than the 6 staff members were involved
     
  5. Jayextee

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    Well, apart from the trailer being weighted more toward teasing (of a minute, 35 seconds of bad TV-filtered Sonic 2 plus some moving text made me start spitting swears at hobos, out of the window. IT IS YOUR FAULT, GUYS) it was, uh, GOOD.

    I mean like, GOOD. Come on a million miles since I last saw anything; it still looks a little conservative and unimaginative, but that's your direction - at least the art all works together now. AND HOW. Good work, guys. Don't let the incoming C&D (probably. Hopefully not) put you off, this is awesome. :)
     
  6. Brad

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    Shit man, talk about a freaking explosion. :v:
    Slightly disappointed like a lot of others. I wasn't expecting a Sonic 4 move like that. It pisses me off, and evidently, quite a lot of others. The fact we've only got three screenshots and 11 seconds of footage doesn't help the matter either.
    Though this is a huge let down, the actual footage does look good still - but you'd think you guys would sweeten how sour this has become by giving us a little more than a teaser and 3 shots.
     
  7. ancara

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    Well, I just woke up and saw all the......interesting posts made bewteen my last post and now.

    At this point, I feel like there can still be at least a tiny bit of hope for things to go back to normal. Still, if we truely want to know exactly what the problem is, there's only one way to know:

    LOst needs to inform us on what went wrong programming-wise. After all, he's the guy responsible for the engine that this thing's running on, right? So I'm sure he can at least answer for us in a simple post exactly what went horribly/hillariously wrong. Hey, it might even get some people know who how to program to figure out the problem and say how to fix it.


    ......but still, when was the last time LOst has posted in here? Or anywhere in general? I mean, you'd think he'd at least tell us that it's going fine/needing work still, right?

    .........right?
     
  8. Aerosol

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    <!--quoteo(post=547462:date=Jan 16 2011, 12:16 PM:name=ancara)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ancara @ Jan 16 2011, 12:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547462">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Well, I just woke up and saw all the......interesting posts made bewteen my last post and now.

    At this point, I feel like there can still be at least a tiny bit of hope for things to go back to normal. Still, if we truely want to know exactly what the problem is, there's only one way to know:

    LOst needs to inform us on what went wrong programming-wise. After all, he's the guy responsible for the engine that this thing's running on, right? So I'm sure he can at least answer for us in a simple post exactly what went horribly/hillariously wrong. Hey, it might even get some people know who how to program to figure out the problem and say how to fix it.


    ......but still, when was the last time LOst has posted in here? Or anywhere in general? I mean, you'd think he'd at least tell us that it's going fine/needing work still, right?

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    If he were gonna do all that, he might as well just open-source the engine. Which he ain't gonna do.

    I hope the alpha release comes along with a release of all materials created thus far. Then maybe someone else can make an engine, and actually make it open source. lOst is a great programmer, I have no doubt. But this one-man-army shit is seriously counter-fucking-productive. And I don't understand why other Core Staff members are taking the exact same tone he is. Why, it's almost as if he only agreed to work on his engine for the project if he were the only person to do so :ssh:
     
  9. OSM

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    <!--quoteo(post=547455:date=Jan 16 2011, 11:34 AM:name=Endri)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Endri @ Jan 16 2011, 11:34 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547455">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=547450:date=Jan 16 2011, 02:08 PM:name=OSM)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (OSM @ Jan 16 2011, 02:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547450">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just a quick question, who was in charge of the video editing for the teaser and the logo?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->It looks very Slingersesque to me, if you know what I mean. But, considering how supa-seekrit-you-cant-haz this project has become, I doubt anyone other than the 6 staff members were involved
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    Whoever has the balls to claim their own work, PM me so I know who you are.
     
  10. Gambit

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    <!--quoteo(post=547450:date=Jan 16 2011, 10:08 AM:name=OSM)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (OSM @ Jan 16 2011, 10:08 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547450">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just a quick question, who was in charge of the video editing for the teaser and the logo?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Scan was in charge of all that.

    <!--quoteo(post=547371:date=Jan 16 2011, 04:57 AM:name=McAleeCh)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (McAleeCh @ Jan 16 2011, 04:57 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547371">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'll keep this short otherwise I'll rant on for ages. Disappointed it's just a trailer and screens as opposed to something playable, but very much liking what I'm seeing so far. Art-wise it looks fantastic, particularly in the full-res versions of the screenshots on the site. Robotnik, the Badniks and the small animals in particular capture the look of the Japanese promotional art very well, as does the gorgeous-looking title screen - the addition of the Death Egg in the top-right corner is a very nice touch.

    Couple of very minor art critiques, though:

    - The layout of the text on the title screen could do with a little shifting - specifically shifting "THE HEDGEHOG" to the left a little and making the 2 bigger. Sonic CD did exactly this on its' title screen - mostly to avoid the logo being read as "SONIC CD THE HEDGEHOG" rather than "SONIC THE HEDGEHOG CD". The Sonic 2 HD title screen could also do with the same adjustments to avoid it being read as "SONIC 2 THE HEDGEHOG HD".
    - There's some weird blending going on on the title screen where the ribbon overlaps Tails.
    - Sonic's eyes could do with being a little more 'surprised' looking on his hurt animation - <a href="http://info.sonicretro.org/File:CS_S_00.png" target="_blank">this image</a> shows what I mean perfectly. Look at the eyes on the surprised face, second from the top-left. The hurt animation needs that level of expressiveness in the eyes, IMO.
    - You might want to consider having separate left-facing and right-facing graphics for Robotnik's Eggmobile; the mirrored "EG" logo on his chair when travelling left-to-right is painfully obvious in the screenshot that's been released, especially when viewed full-res.

    Also loving the extra animation you can see on a lot of things in the trailer, such as Coconuts' tail-swishing and turning animations and, of course, Sonic himself. One question to staff - are the character images on the title screen fully-animated as in the original game, or just a static image?

    Hopefully the actual Alpha Release isn't too far away! = )<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Thanks for the feedback, and yes, the titlescreen will be fully animated.
     
  11. Aerosol

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    Not for nothin but, are we ignoring any further mention of this enormous cock-up, and only responding to what's easy to give a perceivably throw-away answer to?
     
  12. Lapper

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    <!--quoteo(post=547474:date=Jan 16 2011, 05:45 PM:name=Gambit)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gambit @ Jan 16 2011, 05:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547474">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=547450:date=Jan 16 2011, 10:08 AM:name=OSM)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (OSM @ Jan 16 2011, 10:08 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547450">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just a quick question, who was in charge of the video editing for the teaser and the logo?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Scan was in charge of all that.

    <!--quoteo(post=547371:date=Jan 16 2011, 04:57 AM:name=McAleeCh)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (McAleeCh @ Jan 16 2011, 04:57 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547371">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->:words:<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Thanks for the feedback, and yes, the titlescreen will be fully animated.
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    Wait, that screenshot is the actual title screen? Really? Animated?! That's friggin' brilliant. I'm happy again.
     
  13. Gambit

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    <!--quoteo(post=547479:date=Jan 16 2011, 11:49 AM:name=Sonica)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sonica @ Jan 16 2011, 11:49 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547479">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=547474:date=Jan 16 2011, 05:45 PM:name=Gambit)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gambit @ Jan 16 2011, 05:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547474">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=547450:date=Jan 16 2011, 10:08 AM:name=OSM)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (OSM @ Jan 16 2011, 10:08 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547450">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just a quick question, who was in charge of the video editing for the teaser and the logo?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Scan was in charge of all that.

    <!--quoteo(post=547371:date=Jan 16 2011, 04:57 AM:name=McAleeCh)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (McAleeCh @ Jan 16 2011, 04:57 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547371">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->:words:<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Thanks for the feedback, and yes, the titlescreen will be fully animated.
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    Wait, that screenshot is the actual title screen? Really? Animated?! That's friggin' brilliant. I'm happy again.
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    Yes, and it's not just four frames like Sonic 4's. Make of this what you will.
     
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    <!--quoteo(post=547476:date=Jan 16 2011, 01:47 PM:name=AerosolSP)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AerosolSP @ Jan 16 2011, 01:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547476">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Not for nothin but, are we ignoring any further mention of this enormous cock-up, and only responding to what's easy to give a perceivably throw-away answer to?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    This, I mean now that we have all seen the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1z7sXkqFsw" target="_blank">Sonic 2 HD trailer</a> and I guess crit it as well as praise, what we have seen so far, will suggestions like "I preferred the Sonic before this current version" be noted or scrapped? Simply cause I would crit things I would change graphically but I fear it not taking into consideration. Nothing unjustified though but I take it that the communities views will be taken into an account?
     
  15. Aerosol

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    Haha, ok.

    Why are the fingers on Sonic's right hand so weird looking?

    EDIT: That's not exactly what I'm talking about Flare, but that too.
     
  16. Lapper

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    <!--quoteo(post=547481:date=Jan 16 2011, 05:52 PM:name=Gambit)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gambit @ Jan 16 2011, 05:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547481">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=547479:date=Jan 16 2011, 11:49 AM:name=Sonica)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sonica @ Jan 16 2011, 11:49 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547479">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=547474:date=Jan 16 2011, 05:45 PM:name=Gambit)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gambit @ Jan 16 2011, 05:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547474">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=547450:date=Jan 16 2011, 10:08 AM:name=OSM)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (OSM @ Jan 16 2011, 10:08 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547450">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Just a quick question, who was in charge of the video editing for the teaser and the logo?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Scan was in charge of all that.

    <!--quoteo(post=547371:date=Jan 16 2011, 04:57 AM:name=McAleeCh)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (McAleeCh @ Jan 16 2011, 04:57 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547371">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->:words:<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Thanks for the feedback, and yes, the titlescreen will be fully animated.
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    Wait, that screenshot is the actual title screen? Really? Animated?! That's friggin' brilliant. I'm happy again.
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    Yes, and it's not just four frames like Sonic 4's. Make of this what you will.
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    That's it, I'm as happy as I was before the end of the countdown again. I like things like this! :thumbsup:

    I await the alpha with anticipation.

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    Lol. I just needed something to cheer me up. Even the smallest graphical things cheer me up.
     
  17. Endgame

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    Is there ANYTHING left in EHZ that has been done by the "community", that hasn't been made/replaced by one of those 6 people?


    *Not* connected to the above question, let's get practical and compare the latest screenshots with the Tach Demo:
    Tech Demo screenshot:
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    Alpha Screenshots:
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    *edit* just looking at Eggman's vehicle, it'd be good if we could see some smoke coming out of those exhausts.
     
  18. nineko

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    <!--quoteo(post=547476:date=Jan 16 2011, 06:47 PM:name=AerosolSP)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AerosolSP @ Jan 16 2011, 06:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547476">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Not for nothin but, are we ignoring any further mention of this enormous cock-up, and only responding to what's easy to give a perceivably throw-away answer to?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Welcome to... the last 2 years or so? :v:
    Last time I checked there were some staff members who put several people on ignore here on the forum...
     
  19. can I ask how you managed to get a video of the alpha if there have been problems getting it together?
     
  20. Lapper

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    <!--quoteo(post=547486:date=Jan 16 2011, 05:59 PM:name=The Growler)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Growler @ Jan 16 2011, 05:59 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=547486">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Is there ANYTHING left in EHZ that has been done by the "community", that hasn't been made/replaced by one of those 6 people?

    Let's get practical and compare the latest screenshots with the Tach Demo:
    Tech Demo screenshot:
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    Alpha Screenshots:
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    Looks like all was replaced apart form the grass. My bridge was replaced, but I think it was for the better.
    [​IMG]
    Looks pretty good!
     
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