Sonic Colours out for Wii/DS

They'd probably call Sega lazy if they displayed just a list.

 

I didn't hear anyone other than Yahtzee call out No More Heroes 2 for doing exactly that, and I didn't hear much mention of it in Unwiished's reviews, either. (And those lists actively wasted your time, as well.)

 

This. I don't hear it being mentioned about the Mario games, nor the original Crash Bandicoot. Sure, it may not add to the cinematic element of the game, but I don't feel it will detract from it either. And it is head and shoulders above just a list.

 

I was saying critics may complain about something stupid like that, not that I would.

 

Oh but those aren't Sonic, now are they? Complaining about shit no one cares about in Sonic games is easy pie, when there were Sonic Adventure XBLA / PSN reviews with lies in it. Some rated Unleashed below 06. IGN had the indecency of saying that the music was passable. Believe it, they might be glowing previews now but when it's all said and done and reviews come out, it's going to be slammed for the tiniest things.

 

Mind you, some of those were only because the gaming media in question had actually rated '06 higher than it deserved moreso than rating Unleashed lower than it should have been, but yeah... different reviewers, and all that.

 

Iizuka said in his interview with SpONG that he believes Sonic should be more laid-back and fun, not gritty and heavy. No mention of which might appeal to what demographic; it's a general statement about how Sonic the Hedgehog should be for everyone. That Sonic is also mostly marketed to and depends upon kids is also a major factor in the direction, so I doubt they'll make dumbshit mistakes like "Hey, let's add guns and god-beasts and melodrama and useless RPG stats AND boring hub worlds filled with boring people, that worked so well for us around 2006."

As for Tails: I'm fine with him not being a lost puppy and an engineering prodigy. I just have a problem with him being a bit of an out-of-character coward. If you're going to cite SA1 to justify his independence, you might as well also cite it for his tremendous summoning-up to courage to take on enemies that were bigger than him without Sonic by his side.

In other words, I'd like to see Tails kick some ass. With GUSTO. No machines or contraptions required.

Having said that, though, I can accept that Tails can and will get overwhelmed and scared from time to time. With that assumption, I'll let the naturally-cowardly moment in Unleashed slide. That's about all I've got to say on him.

 

If you've forgotten, the reason they claimed to add the werehog in the first place is because "kids loved it".

Iizuka said that because sonic colors is getting good response and he wants to act like he knows what's going on. If he felt that way, he would've changed that after 10 years of "realistic" sonic games, heroes aside. That said, maybe the good response will make him stop with the darker feel, that's possible.

And no, I don't think now, because this one game is aimed at kids, that every sonic game from now on will now be aimed at kids, or as they said, 7-12 year olds.

It's no secret the fact that we liked this game was a shock to the team, which is my evidence that their intentions were in the wrong place all along. They did something we thought we hated and we liked it. Will they learn from their mistakes? Well, have they in the past? When they realize we like it, they'll try to change it to suit us, because they think that will be "better".

Critics will complain the cutscenes are childlike and the game is too easy, and sonic team will think that the solution for these are a darker game and more death traps, even if Iizuka claims otherwise.

 

Kids weren't the reason for adding the Werehog. They just happened to like it after the fact, and not everyone who wasn't a kid hated the Werehog's guts. Besides, that's not exactly helping your argument about making a Sonic game for older gamers means making a Sonic game that's shitty.

So, because Iizuka saw a good response from the game, he thinks future games should follow suit? How's that a false pretense? That's logical. And your second statement is erroneous because Iizuka was not the director of Sonic Team before Sonic Colors, so how could he have changed anything outside of doing his job?

Whether they learn or not and how is in the future. We'll find out soon enough. You have no guarantee that they'll try to change it to "suit us" the wrong way other than past blunders and failures.

If your last statement is true, then SEGA is incapable of winning and we clearly we need to grow up and get over Sonic. Critics, fans, the lot of us old fags. If we're letting a childish story get in the way of genuinely fun gameplay, or the game simply isn't for us anymore, then we pretty much are what Yahtzee says we are: "clingy complaining dipshits who will never ever be satisfied with any concession you make to them," and "the sooner you shut out their shrill tremulous voices, the happier you'll be for it."

"Incidentally, why don't you buy a Yahtzee t-shirt."

 

That's what they said after the fact, when Mike Hayes was trying to justify his "There's this massive divide between 3D Sonic fans and 2D Sonic fans" thing, isn't it?

 

As it stands before this game releases, granted.

Basically what you're saying is they can't do anything right. Ever. In which case I direct you to my closing statement once again:

 

I quit reading game reviews a long time ago. If a game is good, you'll just be able to tell. And if you can't tell, don't be a fucking sheep and trust every review you see. Some reviews are paid reviews, mind you.

Sonic Colors? Everything I see about this game just ties me in a fucking knot at how spectacular it looks. Therefore, the game will be good, I don't need a review in some snarky, sarcasm lined Gaming Magazine to justify my purchase. If it happens that the game may be good but I'm not sure, I live a 2 minute walk away from a small shopping center with a rental store.

 

This is kinda odd to hear, considering that's exactly what colors is compared to Unleased.

 

For the record, I feel genuinely sorry for any grown man or woman (grown = over 21 in this case) who can't enjoy a game made for children. For as long as I live, I'm going to keep playing games like Mario and still imitate his "wahoo!", keep playing Kirby and comment at how adorable he is, keep playing Sonic and start humming the Sonic tune or 'Live and Learn' in my head, and scoff at everyone who will still be so absorbed in the shallow gameplay of Call of Duty or whatever that they can't for the life of them pick up a game box because of that daunting "E" down in the corner (Or Pegi 7 or Cero A).

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A tiny bit of star carnival zone is shown off in the nintendo conference: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/conference20...eupMovHigh.html

everyone who said they ripped off mario galaxy with the "appearing path" can shut up now. It's literally the same thing as in Sonic and the Secret Rigs.

 

The mark of a good company is one that listens to feedback. What, you'd rather they DIDN'T listen? Even Nintendo occasionally fucks up and needs feedback to figure out what's good. Case in point - Mario Sunshine. Took the feedback that the secret-of levels were ace and the rest wasn't so much. Made an entire game out of them, called it galaxy. Became one of the best games ever.

Sonic is just following in suit.

 

How much more yelling will it take for them to ease up on the dash pads, d'ya think? :v: