General Project Thread & Feedback

Well, I wouldn't call it making excuses, I genuinely thought the "uber" one looked better. But eh, what do I know? :P

 

This topic is hilarious. I'll be 85 before this is even close to finished :P

 

<!--quoteo(post=256517:date=Dec 14 2008, 01:31 PM:name=JohnnyUK)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JohnnyUK @ Dec 14 2008, 01:31 PM)

Tech demo/Uber/Edit

I'm not exactly dissatisfied with it, but at the same time I can't quite get the look I'm going for. The biggest thing is figuring out just what shape the petals of such a flower would take, a task I'm apparently not up to. Love to see someone else take a crack at the idea though.

If nothing else, I wouldn't mind the chance to touch up the uber version's shading a bit more.


Another possibility that just came to mind is to leave the little green extensions in, but design them to be less organic and more like the clasps on a gemstone:

 

I really like how this experiment looks even if it seems too blurred (due the edit nature)
Please have the source files of the Uber flowers so you may refine / experiment it more (Flower3 is not uberized yet).

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Feel free to edit them as you please, and show the progress on WIP project thread, until it gets approved than moved on the database.

 

We could use the sprites from Knuckles Chaotix that they could fit better.

 

But... That would make no sense.

 

You could try to adjust his feet in his standing sprites to both be facing forwards, I suppose. That and a little shading work is all I'd bother with, and I'm not sure about the former.

 

If you think a blue sonic hedgehog makes sense so I think I'm crazy xD

Seriously, I would not even touch knuckles until Sonic 2HD is finished, because it is confusing to release Sonic 2 & Knuckles HD as Sonic 2 HD. Knuckles Chaotix sprites uses the Sonic 1/Sonic Crackers style, so it is technically a step before the Knuclkes from Sonic 3...

 

That's kinda true; I mean, Ohshima was back as that game's character designer, wasn't he?

 

Oh sorry, I thought there was quite a lot of serious effort being put into this project. =P

 

Arbitrary changes such as changing Knuckles' sprite style are the exact kind of things that we need to avoid. Why do you think that so many people keep suggesting to stay as close to the source material as possible? Everyone who liked Sonic 2 and its stylistic design are bound to like Sonic 2 HD, as long as we stay true to the original product.

This is why I was so uppity about a pause menu a while back; we have no idea whether or not the original designers would have wanted a pause menu, but we definitely know there's a reason they used the Sonic & Knuckles spritesheet—because it was A) the only available design at the time and B) because it could be drawn from the Sonic & Knuckles ROM via lockon. Changing that because you "think it will look better" is totally baseless—beauty is entirely subjective, and your definition of "better" should not be forced upon everyone else. The best way to make sure we all are on the same page here is to, in this case, use the original Knuckles sprites. Period.

 

I couldn't have said it better. That's basically the reason why I'm always trying to keep things as faithful as possible, because changing stuff around will please some, but annoy others.

 

I think I posted more than once to agree with ICEknight and Tweaker. If there was a poll about original content VS über content, original would get my vote.

 

Thanks, at least someone like me here. :v:

I suggested because I think it would make sense. Sonic 2 & Knuckles has NOTHING to do with the original artists! So the art style is different, so there IS an option of using a more close style to the artists! I like Knuckles sprites from S3 than I like the ones from Chaotix but we try to think as the original artists team.

Well, there is no "Period" in Sonic 2 HD. Period . It is not your decision and not mine, I only suggested, I'm not against or in favor, I only wanted to know the community opinion. I wanted to see arguments and discussion, the Staff is here to make smart decisions based on the community's main opinion. In Brazil we say: Two brains work better than only one!

Yes, simply like that =P

No one told me that, so that's why I suggested that...

Yeah! My second slogan: Less complaints more work! =P

 

Moved posts on the same General Project Thread & Feedback.

I feel everything in regards to this matter has been discussed and explained enough on the previous pages.
That's why I encourage everyone to keep use of this topic and its free time, in a different and more productive direction!

 

I know virtually nothing about the engine you're using, but maybe we could ask Chris Pfeiffer if we can use this for the ending movie! http://chris-supernerd.deviantart.com/art/...-Movie-22457911

 

Sorry, but that idea was already suggested (and sort of not really liked) a few times before in this thread.

 

Just a question that came to my mind, and it is as follows.

Have you guys been talking about if we should or shouldn't allow the games' fullscreen-mode to be played in 16:10 instead of 4:3 stretched into 16:10? I know it's not precisely 4:3, but you get the idea.

If we're going to "modernize" the game, this is something to consider, now when so many people are using widescreens.

But if the game is played in 4:3 but not stretched in fullscreen (like on Youtube), that would work too. It's how the game was planed way back then, so yeah.