Sonic 3C(ustomizable)

I bet if you/we asked her very sweetly, you'd have good sprites for modern Amy too! Amy just looks weird, with red dress or without.

I'm uploading my own playthrough of HCZ1 to YouTube, so more to see if you happen to be completely crap at Sonic 3C, and unable to download files!

 

Oh, by the way. Don't know if this is known or not, but Amy is able to walk on air right after Angel Island burns. Jump up on the ledge and just walk off.

 

No funny commentary, because other than pointing out how often Amy is Pink Sonic, there's nothing to be done.

Also, if Amy dies without hitting a checkpoint in HCZ2, she gets put back in the usual spot. This happens in the original if you break the game by beating the wrong miniboss in ICZ for example, but perhaps you need to set a flag depending on which boss was beaten to work out which spot to be put back on?

 

Her?

Hmm, given the edits necessary to make her Adventure-y, I'd probably be just as quick making a new sheet from scratch. Do you have the sheet you're using right now so I can use it for reference?

Just to warn you, this could take a while so you may want to get another sheet handy in case (I'm starting to wish I'd started on expanding Amy's sheet to 2 and 3 sooner).

I have a complete Sally Acorn sheet for Sonic 3 if you can make use of that... :v:

By the way, tried to the new revision, love the boss (nicely animated too), the refined co-op is a plus too.

 

Having seen the new mid-boss, I can safely say it's quite awesome. We really need more ASM stuff in hacks, rather than just palette, layout and music changes.

 

Odd. Just tried to do it again and nothing happened. Oh well!

 

So, I finally got to the miniboss as Sonic legitimately, and after the first million tries (since the boss randomly decided not to die after millions of hits) I did it! Video coming soon.

EDIT: Or not, since I can't seem to reproduce the bugfix, and can't fix it myself because I have no idea where this new miniboss stores its data.

EDIT2: Okay, got it. To get around that bug, you have to hit the boss at the earliest point possible and skim the water at exactly the same time. That's the only way I've managed to get into a position where the boss will eventually die.

EDIT HARD WITH A VENGEANCE:



Cookie please.

 

That was awesome fun. One thing though - why do those jet shark badniks in act 2 die as soon as Amy touches them?

 

Edit: Oops, my reply below was meant to be an edit to this, but I guess that works too. Feel free to trash.

 

This is some fantastic stuff! Great to see this in progress again. I love Amy's alternate route and boss - when I first played the original game, the unexpected Knuckles paths were one of my favourite things, and it's great to be surprised again after all this time. And with barely having played the Advance games, it's even more new to me.

I never did get around to committing back the last few bits from Complete 100404... sorry about that, I've been distracted from it for quite some time now.

 

I'd be quite supportive of any more original ASM stuff. It's so much more interesting IMO. More so because S3K hacking is relatively uncommon.

The sharks 'pop' without a sound/animal/points if any other character collides with them without spinning (and thus gets damaged), and this obviously always applies to Amy as she can't spin (usually).

Actually, I've always wondered why this is. I can't see much of a reason for it, though I assume it was intentional. You guys are good with coding; perhaps you can enlighten us as to how/why it's done, and/or if it looks intentional.

 

Ah, I didn't realise she doesn't get hurt. Yeah, I'd be interested to know what's different in their code, as I've always wondered why they behave differently. Anyway, keep up the good work (and feel free to go nuts with ASM and other new features)!

 

Er... why?

Ah, so it's because I hit it four times in a row. I thought it had something to do with the water.

 

It was certainly intentional. Basically, the game has a standard collision routine which checks if the player's collided with an object and makes the player and object react accordingly, and that routine has a standard enemy subroutine which is used by most badniks. The Jawz badnik, however, doesn't use that enemy subroutine; instead, it uses another type of subroutine which simply sets a flag inside the object's status table if there's been a collision (and sets it differently depending on whether it was the main character or the sidekick (I.e. Tails in a Sonic and Tails game) who collided). The badnik can then read this flag to detect a collision and respond accordingly - if the collision is a type which should kill the badnik it acts just like any other badnik, but if the collision is a type which should harm the player it harms the player and then explodes anyway. So yeah. that's how it happens, although I can't tell you why they made it that way.

Also, Hayate, check out sub_857C2. It's the routine used by Jawz to check if the collision should harm the player, and it uses an offset table which operates using the player's character ID. I'm guessing you haven't added an entry for Amy in that table, which probably causes the problem.

 

Tried out a 'starter' sprite of Amy standing:



The second one is due to using a modified pallette, the darker colors may help better display shading, though I'm not sure what editing the palette will do to your hack.