If we're going for that Authentic Old-School Sonic Feel™, I'd suggest diagonals as well. Adding them can't hurt (except the animator having to do them :P), as they'll improve how a fully 360° rotated sprite would look as well.
Xenowhirl made a great tool called rotsprite, to rotate a sprite (what a surprise :p) without getting something ugly like in paint. It could be used.
Graphics Gale can rotate sprites too, but I'll check out rotsprite later today as well. Thanks for the suggestions!
I'm pretty sure that the 2D games use computer-rotated sprites which are then touched up a little to keep good quality? Aside from Advance, which tries to show off real time sprite rotating in the worst way possible.
<!--quoteo(post=272709:date=Jan 26 2009, 01:57 PM:name=Chimpo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chimpo @ Jan 26 2009, 01:57 PM) These problems weren't in the final revision of the sprite posted on page 34, and when I tried to fix these problems, here what it came: Hmmm.... Weird I think it looks familiar Where did I see it? <!--quoteo(post=271668:date=Jan 23 2009, 11:59 PM:name=Chimpo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chimpo @ Jan 23 2009, 11:59 PM) Also, be careful with the palette. You ended up adding two near duplicate colors.[/quote] This sprite was perfect. Chimpo, fifthelephant and me shaped it little by little, and this was the final result. It fits with the style of the other sprites! It's cool looking! Really, I can't understand how someone can think that OSM's sprite is better in every way. Sure, that sprite is good, and I like its belly, but they are the only things better! All the rest is wrong! And deep inside you know it Chimpo, because you... <!--quoteo(post=272153:date=Jan 25 2009, 08:03 AM:name=Chimpo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chimpo @ Jan 25 2009, 08:03 AM) [/quote] Then I really can't say anything. And I won't stop to contribute, because this project is too great to see it end. But I can't stay quiet.
No point trying to reason with him STHX, despite the fact that Rave, you, Tweaker and others have said it's a bad sprite (and for god's sake it's the original sprite that we like, the one chimpo himself created) he still thinks the edit is better. You're not even being constructive anymore Chimpo, I thought your arrogance was due to your abilities as a pixel artist but now I see that you're just being a dick for the sake of it. People want the best from the project, they just weren't the first to speak up about the new version of the sprite so you just ran with it. It's time to cast some sort of vote, because you're going to perhaps have several good sprite artists drop out (like I have) because they don't want to play as some down syndrome rat faced sonic.
If I'm 100% honest, I actually do not see what is wrong with using the original Sonic 3 sprites with this. So what if they're used in the previous game, add new animations to it for the various needs and we have a perfect sprite. Update the colours/shading if necessary too.
It wasn;t so much "showing off" as it was being lazy and using the GBA sprite rotation hardware rather than drawing angles for the sprites.
I'm pretty sure it was something like "look at what the GBA can do!" They used a lot of rotation, zoom and mode 7 for the first GBA games, because of that.
Sonic 2 basically used Sonic 1 sprites with some modifications. Tails's sprites were reused in almost every original 2D Sonic game (Sonic 2, Sonic 3, Crackers). I just say reuse the Sonic 3 ones, maybe with updated shading and some slight modifications.
Rotsprite makes them come out great. Graphics gale rotation makes it look like a pixellated mess. The touch up work will be much easier with Rotsprite
Ok I'm back guys. I made a huge fix with the idle, I think you'll all be pleased. I thought it over and outlined the problems with the head people have been having. One sec, this is probably the winning ticket. EDIT: Wait a sec, one more fix. There.
With this latest one, I do feel the spikes seem like they've been filed down. They're... Not spiky, essentially. If this could be fixed, though, then it'd be a winner for me. The face now looks excellent, and the flaws of the last few versions have been overcome in that respect.
We're looping back to the original problem—the spikes are too short. I maintain that Cinossu's edit solved this problem entirely, and it should be kept within the main sprite.
Here. Fused mine and Cinossu's quills. Ugh, I'm at a loss. I'm done trying to edit this thing then. I can't get the perfect medium for everyone to like. I'm gonna start on the other poses in the meantime. Chimpo, I agree but some people prefer his eyes smaller. I'm just trying to please everyone I can. :/
<!--quoteo(post=272918:date=Jan 26 2009, 09:41 PM:name=Tweaker)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tweaker @ Jan 26 2009, 09:41 PM)
<!--quoteo(post=272929:date=Jan 26 2009, 04:50 PM:name=Cinossu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cinossu @ Jan 26 2009, 04:50 PM) [/quote] Back to the Adventure era again. D8
