HOLIDAY BANRAISER 09

Discussion in 'Announcements' started by Scarred Sun, Dec 11, 2009.

  1. DimensionWarped

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    That tells me that people don't give a shit more than it tells me that every little bit helps, but whatever helps you feel important.
     
  2. RAMPKORV

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    This capital-driven place really stink due to stuff like this.
     
  3. Blue Blood

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    Even with the extension the event has managed to do poorly. The timing wasn't great, and I'm not sure people are rally bothered about short-term temp-banning Tristan. Had it been something like a $500 (or whatever value would be more suitable) goal to permanently ban him/1 year ban then the result could have been swayed, but this event was asking too much for too little.
     
  4. TSSZNews

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    <b>$207.70</b> is not bad for this community, I think anyone could tell you that (Sonic Relief '09, in contrast, made I think $143 with a whole other set of circumstances hampering it earlier this year), and in particular given how I approached SS out of the blue about 3 or 4 days before we started it, so I think to call it "poor" is...well, a poor choice of words.

    I AM perplexed why there was less incentive with the lower limit than the higher one, but oh well.

    Should this happen next year, I do think a move up to November will serve better, as well as an overall "goal" set, perhaps with some research discovery tie-in or some other crazy thing, if one is available. (EDIT: In hindsight, I will agree that the original limit may have been too great an expectation, and it won't be NEARLY that high next year if it happens. Live and learn.)

    The total, when all the calculations are in, lead to a <b>3.5 day ban</b>.

    Thanks to everyone who donated. =)
     
  5. Kurosan

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    <!--quoteo(post=389457:date=Dec 27 2009, 01:51 PM:name=TSSZNews)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TSSZNews @ Dec 27 2009, 01:51 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=389457"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->so I think to call it "poor" is...well, a poor choice of words.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No.

    <!--quoteo(post=389457:date=Dec 27 2009, 01:51 PM:name=TSSZNews)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TSSZNews @ Dec 27 2009, 01:51 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=389457"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I AM perplexed why there was less incentive with the lower limit than the higher one, but oh well.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Tip: No one gives a shit. People who are interested in the donations to Child's Play simply donate to the organization themselves and cut the middle man. People who want to see you banned aren't satisfied with the conditions issued since it's too much money for too little time with too high of a target and too low of a jackpot. There's pretty much no incentive for either side.

    I don't care about banning you and I wish I could donate to Child's Play (but can't afford it), but the above is pretty obvious.
     
  6. Tweaker

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    <!--quoteo(post=389435:date=Dec 27 2009, 02:54 PM:name=RAMPKORV)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RAMPKORV @ Dec 27 2009, 02:54 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=389435"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This capital-driven place really stink due to stuff like this.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This was Tristan's idea, actually, but feel free to stir up the conspiracies if you'd like. :)
     
  7. Blue Blood

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    <!--quoteo(post=389461:date=Dec 27 2009, 09:04 PM:name=Tweaker)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tweaker @ Dec 27 2009, 09:04 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=389461"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=389435:date=Dec 27 2009, 02:54 PM:name=RAMPKORV)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RAMPKORV @ Dec 27 2009, 02:54 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=389435"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This capital-driven place really stink due to stuff like this.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This was Tristan's idea, actually, but feel free to stir up the conspiracies if you'd like. :)
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    We've had all sorts of conspiracies from the Sonic 2 beta, so a few more won't matter. =P

    Tristan, I think that Kuro has really nailed it in saying why the campaign did poorly. And by the time the original deadline had come, everyone who was interested in contributing had already done so (bar one), so there was nothing really in for it.

    I say "poor" because the outcome of the event was poor, especially when expectations are looked at. A three and half day ban from a single website is going to zero impact. In terms of funds raised the drive wasn't awful. My college is several-thousand strong and we managed to raise only £1,000 for comic relief so you definitely get the thumbs up there.
     
  8. TSSZNews

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    <!--quoteo(post=389461:date=Dec 27 2009, 04:04 PM:name=Tweaker)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tweaker @ Dec 27 2009, 04:04 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=389461"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This was Tristan's idea, actually, but feel free to stir up the conspiracies if you'd like. :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    This is true.

    EDIT to Respond to Blue Blood: I think there's a lot of confusion in that there were expectations from the start. Certainly we wanted to raise money and hopefully a lot of money, but if anything, that was the only expectation. There wasn't a set goal until the very end for that exact reason—where would you put it, and if exceeded, then what? And like what was said earlier, if there's an incentive for donating, then why not?

    Now that it's done, and there is a barometer on which to measure, it can be tweaked and refined for a possible 2010 fundraiser. I'd be more than happy to take suggestions on how to improve—in the end, getting this community to participate for the cause is the most important thing.
     
  9. Kurosan

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    <!--quoteo(post=389467:date=Dec 27 2009, 02:22 PM:name=TSSZNews)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TSSZNews @ Dec 27 2009, 02:22 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=389467"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'd be more than happy to take suggestions on how to improve—in the end, getting this community to participate for the cause is the most important thing.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    1. Stop any involvement other than being banned. Having you go around and advertise your own banning is weird, especially since we all know very well that you'll just be back and even being banned probably won't keep you from reporting on stuff you read on Retro. Also, drop the attitude. You're not a big deal and you're not helping anyone; you're just another user like myself or anyone else, but a lot of people have something against you and want you gone. Having you go around acting like you're a hero and are doing "the good thing" is pretty retarded, especially since getting banned is punishment for acting wrong; if you're so proud of your "status" and think you deserve to be banned, then why aren't you already banned? If not, then why should you be banned? If donating to Child's Play is really what you're after though, then please quit pretending like anyone here is getting rewarded; knowing that they're helping kids should be enough for them, that's what a donation is.

    2. Turn "Banned: Can't post on Retro" into "Banned: Can't <b>view</b> Retro". People who want you gone have made it clear that it's not your few posts that piss them off, but your inability to even read stuff on the website would probably make them a lot more interested.

    3. The pricing is completely wrong. $20 is likely not worth it for anyone to have you being unable to post for one day. How about $5 for a day, $25 for a week, $75 for a month, and unlimited if the total is over $1000?


    Again, I couldn't care less about Tristan getting banned, but the above is what I've concluded from reading the thread.
     
  10. The Shad

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    Christmas. Low Posting Target.

    Figure it out.
     
  11. HighFrictionZone

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    How's about for next year, something like this:
    Donate $2, get yourself banned for a day and a nifty "I got banned for charity" achievement
    Donate $20 and cast a vote for a one week ban for somebody. As in donate $20 and cast a vote to get Tweaker banned for a week or something. Depending on number of votes, have the top two or three scorers banned for a week. Not necessarily at the same time mind, banning all the admins at once would be dumb.
    Donate $200 and insta-ban any person of your choosing for a week. This is in addition to any week bans they might receive from votes.
    Donate $2000 and insta-ban any two individuals for a month, no questions asked. Obviously, if the admins get banned they serve their sentences consecutively and not simultaneously.
    Donate $20000 and insta-ban all members of Retro simultaneously for one month. Also, you crazy.

    Obviously you are free to tweak the numbers and specifics as you see fit.

    Just throwing suggestions out there.
     
  12. Scarred Sun

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    Welp, this.
    <!--quoteo(post=389587:date=Dec 28 2009, 12:14 AM:name=HighFrictionZone)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (HighFrictionZone @ Dec 28 2009, 12:14 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=389587"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How's about for next year, something like this:
    Donate $2, get yourself banned for a day and a nifty "I got banned for charity" achievement
    Donate $20 and cast a vote for a one week ban for somebody. As in donate $20 and cast a vote to get Tweaker banned for a week or something. Depending on number of votes, have the top two or three scorers banned for a week. Not necessarily at the same time mind, banning all the admins at once would be dumb.
    Donate $200 and insta-ban any person of your choosing for a week. This is in addition to any week bans they might receive from votes.
    Donate $2000 and insta-ban any two individuals for a month, no questions asked. Obviously, if the admins get banned they serve their sentences consecutively and not simultaneously.
    Donate $20000 and insta-ban all members of Retro simultaneously for one month. Also, you crazy.

    Obviously you are free to tweak the numbers and specifics as you see fit.

    Just throwing suggestions out there.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    No.
     
  13. <!--quoteo(post=389587:date=Dec 27 2009, 11:14 PM:name=HighFrictionZone)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (HighFrictionZone @ Dec 27 2009, 11:14 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=389587"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How's about for next year, something like this:
    Donate $2, get yourself banned for a day and a nifty "I got banned for charity" achievement
    Donate $20 and cast a vote for a one week ban for somebody. As in donate $20 and cast a vote to get Tweaker banned for a week or something. Depending on number of votes, have the top two or three scorers banned for a week. Not necessarily at the same time mind, banning all the admins at once would be dumb.
    Donate $200 and insta-ban any person of your choosing for a week. This is in addition to any week bans they might receive from votes.
    Donate $2000 and insta-ban any two individuals for a month, no questions asked. Obviously, if the admins get banned they serve their sentences consecutively and not simultaneously.
    Donate $20000 and insta-ban all members of Retro simultaneously for one month. Also, you crazy.

    Obviously you are free to tweak the numbers and specifics as you see fit.

    Just throwing suggestions out there.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's one thing to suggest that you yourself be banned and it's another to do something that deserves a ban. But to suggest that others be banned without their consent and for no wrongdoing is unacceptable.
     
  14. HighFrictionZone

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    Fair enought. What I get for not getting enough sleep. Perhaps revise my suggestions to limit the ban pool to volunteers? I don't know. Do whatever. Night.
     
  15. <!--quoteo(post=389587:date=Dec 28 2009, 06:14 AM:name=HighFrictionZone)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (HighFrictionZone @ Dec 28 2009, 06:14 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=389587"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Donate $20 and cast a vote for a one week ban for somebody. As in donate $20 and cast a vote to get Tweaker banned for a week or something.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    How many people would actually donate to see that happen? =P
     
  16. Max Firestorm

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    <!--quoteo(post=389640:date=Dec 28 2009, 01:22 PM:name=Blanche Hodapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Blanche Hodapp @ Dec 28 2009, 01:22 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=389640"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=389587:date=Dec 28 2009, 06:14 AM:name=HighFrictionZone)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (HighFrictionZone @ Dec 28 2009, 06:14 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=389587"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Donate $20 and cast a vote for a one week ban for somebody. As in donate $20 and cast a vote to get Tweaker banned for a week or something.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    How many people would actually donate to see that happen? =P
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    X. Where X is the amount of people who don't like Tweaker/have been banned by Tweaker/generally want to see Tweaker banned >.>;
     
  17. nineko

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    brb asking Simon Wai to donate $20
     
  18. Chimpo

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    I can tell you exactly why this fund raiser was a failure.

    I didn't host it.

    <img src="http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/83/savealife.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    Maybe next year folks. Maybe next year we'll get actual results!
     
  19. RAMPKORV

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    <!--quoteo(post=389461:date=Dec 27 2009, 04:04 PM:name=Tweaker)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tweaker @ Dec 27 2009, 04:04 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=389461"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=389435:date=Dec 27 2009, 02:54 PM:name=RAMPKORV)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RAMPKORV @ Dec 27 2009, 02:54 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=389435"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This capital-driven place really stink due to stuff like this.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This was Tristan's idea, actually, but feel free to stir up the conspiracies if you'd like. :)
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    I'm sorry then. I must have completely misunderstood the situation. That actually makes it funny.
     
  20. DimensionWarped

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    Funny. Attention grabbing. Tomato Tomato. Actually, that doesn't work as well in writing as it does in speech.