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#2521 User is offline Mykonos 

Posted 12 February 2012 - 12:14 PM

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On the note of Generations, I have a quick question about Rooftop Run Modern.

Now, in Unleashed's edition of the stage, during the Quick Step section at the end, where you'd try and knock the Egg Fighters into the Aerochasers, with the proper timing you could hit two Egg Fighters at once. However, in the Generations version of Rooftop Run, I haven't been able to do that yet. Is it merely impossible or is the timing just different? It doesn't really matter either way, I'm just curious.

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View PostK2J, on 12 February 2012 - 05:37 AM, said:

Hilarious Generations oversight, replace single long-dash with double-dash:

http://www.youtube.c...5ZK0Ul1N—g#t=3s
Sometimes too much detail is a bad idea... XD

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View PostSik, on 12 February 2012 - 12:23 PM, said:

View PostK2J, on 12 February 2012 - 05:37 AM, said:

Hilarious Generations oversight, replace single long-dash with double-dash:

http://www.youtube.c...5ZK0Ul1N—g#t=3s
Sometimes too much detail is a bad idea... XD

That helicopter isn't just extra detail, it's another path to the shortcut. Only thing is you can grab onto it after the point where it normally drops you off if you're fast enough, as happens in that video.
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More Generations Modern Speed Highway things:

This is a reference to a bit of the original game that's not seen in Generations unless you suck at the first section.

What is this poster supposed to be referencing? All the other posters/billboards in the level have some character's name in it or something.

And this has probably been mentioned already, but the on-screen controller in the PC version looks like it was manufactured by Robotnik Corp.

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First Screenshot: I've only ever encountered that tunnel once. I kinda wish there was one in a more general path of the stage, it's one of the most memorable parts of Speed Highway for me.

Second Screenshot: Perhaps someone with the PC version could get that texture separately so we could see it better? No clue who the humans on it are supposed to be.

Third Screenshot: That's pretty cool. :v:

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View PostE102, on 02 August 2011 - 01:56 AM, said:

I'm sure you guys are already familiar with 808 State's Pacific State and its influence on Little Planet. But here's another that's even closer than that:

Cubik and Boss (GG) from Sonic 2 (8-bit).

Speaking of Sonic 2 (8-bit), I just thought I'd let you guys know that Green Hills Zone isn't the only track with similarities to Sonic CD music, although the connections aren't as obvious. They're more like comparing Sonic - You Can Do Anything to Mecha Green Hill Zone (which is also based off of Sonic - You Can Do Anything) instead of Green Hills Zone.

Listen very closely to these pairs; you might just notice something you've never heard before.

Sonic CD-----------Sonic 2 (8-bit)
-Palmtree Panic and Act Start
-Collision Chaos and Gimmick Mountain Zone
-Tidal Tempest and Crystal Egg Zone
-Quartz Quadrant and Aqua Lake Zone
-Wacky Workbench and Invincibility
-Stardust Speedway and Scrambled Egg Zone
-Metallic Madness and Sky High Zone
-Boss!! and Boss (GG)
-Zone Clear!! and Act Clear
-Game Over and Game Over


I'm sorry to drag stuff back from a number of pages back, but I'm just curious- am I RETARDED or do NONE of these songs actually sound similar? Seriously... I mean, ANYone can hear Green Hill and You Can Do Anything, but for christ's sake, I can't hear any explicit similarities between these...
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So, my Megadrive II thinks it's an emulator.

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Photograph of the CRT television I still play old consoles on. I'd finished the game and was about to turn off the Megadrive when I knocked the cartridge by accident. I know this is probably just some generic error message, but I've never considered the Megadrive II to be a 'real' Megadrive, so this gave me a giggle.

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View PostEric Wright, on 19 February 2012 - 02:10 PM, said:

I'm sorry to drag stuff back from a number of pages back, but I'm just curious- am I RETARDED or do NONE of these songs actually sound similar? Seriously... I mean, ANYone can hear Green Hill and You Can Do Anything, but for christ's sake, I can't hear any explicit similarities between these...

Only if we're both retarded, because I also can't really hear it. I think it's stretching to an epic degree. And what does it prove, anyway? Does anyone really think that the composers had some grand plan to build one soundtrack from another? If there are general compositional similarities, that makes sense, but a diagramatic 1:1 chart? What's next, ornithomancy?

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View PostJayextee, on 19 February 2012 - 02:33 PM, said:

I know this is probably just some generic error message, but I've never considered the Megadrive II to be a 'real' Megadrive, so this gave me a giggle.
It isn't a generic message, actually. Line 1111 refers to opcodes starting with those four bits, which are floating point opcodes. The 68000 doesn't have a FPU, so it can be emulated in software. That's from where the name comes. Of course, the game doesn't have code to emulate a FPU so it crashes instead =P
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#2530 User is online Lambda 

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View PostMercury, on 19 February 2012 - 02:44 PM, said:

View PostEric Wright, on 19 February 2012 - 02:10 PM, said:

I'm sorry to drag stuff back from a number of pages back, but I'm just curious- am I RETARDED or do NONE of these songs actually sound similar? Seriously... I mean, ANYone can hear Green Hill and You Can Do Anything, but for christ's sake, I can't hear any explicit similarities between these...

Only if we're both retarded, because I also can't really hear it. I think it's stretching to an epic degree. And what does it prove, anyway? Does anyone really think that the composers had some grand plan to build one soundtrack from another? If there are general compositional similarities, that makes sense, but a diagramatic 1:1 chart? What's next, ornithomancy?

I can hear similarities between Gimmick Mountain Zone and Collision Chaos. You might wanna give that one in particular another listen.
This post has been edited by Lambda: 20 February 2012 - 09:04 AM

#2531 User is offline E102 

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View PostMercury, on 19 February 2012 - 02:44 PM, said:

Only if we're both retarded, because I also can't really hear it. I think it's stretching to an epic degree. And what does it prove, anyway? Does anyone really think that the composers had some grand plan to build one soundtrack from another? If there are general compositional similarities, that makes sense, but a diagramatic 1:1 chart? What's next, ornithomancy?


I didn't say they were exactly the same. I'm using :, not an =, and I'm also saying they're ~ (similar), not ≅ (congruent). This is also why I wrote what I did about adjusting to Mecha Green Hill's interpretation of Sonic - You Can Do Anything: you can't go in expecting it to be 100% the same.

Aside from directing you to this topic, which I have recently put more detailed information on how I compared these, I'll present here what I believe to be the most distinguishing proof of Sonic 2 (8-bit) and Sonic CD music association following Green Hills Zone.

Sky High vs. Metallic Madness

Here's a runner up.
Aqua Lake vs. Quartz Quadrant
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#2532 User is offline SonikkuForever 

Posted 24 February 2012 - 09:38 PM

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YouTube user raveakidd claims to have found an unused music track in the Sonic Adventure disk.


Nice!

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Doesn't sound very Sonic Adventureish, but it's very funky. I like it regardless. Could work for Sand Hill possibly, or goin down

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Reminds me of a Special Stage theme. Pretty cool, great find. :)

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I'm guessing that it's amother track for the Choa part of the game, if you listen to "Lets Get This Party Started" you'll notice similarities, I'm also guessing that it's a Kumatani track.

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