Sonic the Hedgehog Cinematic Universe Thread (& Knuckles)

This reminds me of how Shadow Generations sold 1 million units in the matter of days then quickly dropped off afterwards to crossing 1.5 million units 5 weeks later.

Fans came in heavy for Sonic opening weekend to avoid spoilers and everyone else waited for Mufasa because they were busy and it's not a movie that you have to catch day one to avoid spoilers.

We'll have to wait and see how it works out but I wonder if all those Sonic fans making those memes about Mufasa beating Sonic will admit they were wrong in the long run like I did with the opening weekend when Sonic won the weekend.

Doubt it though.

 

Why would they? The initial projections everywhere were Mufasa easily beating Sonic. The revised ones had them neck and neck, and the ones a week before had Sonic $70m. Even on here, people had their expectations low because of Mufasa.

By all accounts, Sonic did what everyone said it couldn't. Just because the last second hype took an unrealistic swing doesn't discount it's actual victories.

 

Except people were saying after this weekend that Sonic was easily going to destroy Mufasa at the box office overall. There were people in this very thread predicting it to clear a billion.

People even claiming that Disney was a low point with the two highest grossing films of the year. And that this billion dollar corporation (Paramount) is somehow made with more love than the other billion dollar corporation.

Reality is showing that not to be the case. The real win is the overall box office and Mufasa is thriving.

 

There was only ONE person talking about cracking a billion here, and not to speak ill of them, but they always tend to exaggerate.

The only other person on here that mentioned a billion was me, and that was in regards to what the market conditions would need to be for that to happen. Everyone else here was pretty realistic with their expectations.

 

Yes, Mufasa is ahead in worldwide, but also I don't think we just can ignore Sonic is doing better than Mufasa in other countries.

 

I was going to say how I didn't think Sonic was going to take on Mufasa easily given that with Disney's typical avenues Mufasa's obviously primed for theatres as "the cartoon movie", but then I read this.

Uh... yeah?

Obviously Paramount has its own issues given that we just saw them make a Knuckles series with less of the Knuck and more of the les, and how the parent company Viacom nudged a dev studio to cobble up BfBB Rehydrated to tie in with Sponge on the Run... a movie that wouldn't even come out that year thanks to COVID, but I have not forgotten about the utter disaster Disney's PR just had last August where they claimed if you had a subscription to Disney+ your allergic husband can't just sue you, and where the lawyers had to quickly back off once they realized just how fucking rancid that is. The corpos aren't good but let's not pretend there aren't monkeys running the zoo over there LMAO

 

https://mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2024/08/20/disney-will-not-seek-arbitration-in-wrongful-death-case#:~:text=Disney does not own the,in county court in Orlando.

"Disney does not own the restaurant. Disney initially motioned the case to be settled out of court, with the company's lawyers claiming the terms and conditions of Disney+ say any dispute must be settled out of court through arbitration. "

Disney didn't own the restaurant that caused the wrongful death. They were renting property at Disney's Mall District. It's no different than if someone tried to sue an actual mall for something that happened in a single store at the mall. As in they're going after the wrong person.

They tried to go into Arbitration to handle things privately, as they aren't really to blame for this, and tried using the Disney plus terms of service to speed up the process. But once again this wasn't on them.

You should know this if you remember the details. Or else there are clear biases here.

 

Yes, I literally just mentioned that they backed off once they clarified that logic wasn't sound.

 

While ignoring they weren't at fault at all to begin with because it wasn't a restaurant they owned or had anything to do with but renting property.

 

That's

No?

I just said that it was their PR and lawyers that fucked up when they tried boiling down the facts.

I did not say that they were always at fault. Obviously I read that the restaurant wasn't theirs, but their lawyers were a bunch of chimps that they had to reign in. That is shit that would not happen in most circumstances. No one but the tossy Disney would make that argument.

The point of what I was saying is Paramount edged Disney out in the tact department. You were trying to make it seem like it was some preposterous idea that one corpo could be more careful than the other, but obviously most corpos wouldn't have their teams make an argument like that.

My fault with Paramount has to do with their "Knuckles without the Knuckles" approach and how naggy they can get with their clients. My fault with Disney is their legal department are run by chimps and how they can let shit like that pass.

I'm not going to continue on this train of thought further because holy shit I think I've already said enough to warrant not repeating myself

 

They were just trying to force the topic to go into Arbitration, where it would be settled privately. They tried using the Disney plus terms and conditions to do but obviously no judge took that seriously (even though the whole matter still wasnt their fault and they should have never been sued in the first place).

I personally don't see why to even bring the subject up, in the first place, when they did nothing personally wrong to land themselves in this terrible situation for that poor woman who lost her life.

But it doesn't make me feel Paramount is any less money hungry than Disney or wouldn't do the same thing in the same situation.

 

Sonic 3 is made with more love and that's a fact. I will not be debating this.

 

Which way, western man

 

Seeing some early numbers flowing in.

Sonic 3 went up in the 30% range
Mufasa went up in the 100% range

There's about a 2̶ 4 million difference between the films, in Mufasa's favor.

I've been waiting for this story to be told for 30 years...
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Another contestant enters the ring

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Mufasa wins the top spot on Christmas Day with $14m. Sonic grossed $10.3m, but what's this? Bill Skarsgård latest cosplay home movie beat out Sonic as well, grossing $11.55m on its opening day.

As of right now, Sonic is still about $20m ahead of Mufasa in the domestic market, but with drops like these, Mufasa will overtake Sonic in the long run. Sonic 3 starts opening up in international markets on the 27th.

 

Already opened today in fact through several countries

Anyway watched the movie

 

2:31 AM
Looks like everything is settling down. Mufasa and Sonic are neck and neck on Thursday grosses. Nosferatu dropped down to 3rd place with a big gap. Be interesting to see who wins Thursday, but there's a good chance it's going to be Mufasa since they hold all of the IMAX screens. Round two starts tomorrow.

I'll do a big wrap up on Sunday night for the weekend performance and I'll look into some international numbers too. I've got a fucking cold and don't want to bother with Friday or Saturday. Deadline posts their estimates in the morning if anyone is interested in keeping up with the box office slug fest.

8:16 AM Quick update

Mufasa edged out slightly. Its made $12m on Thursday with Sonic right behind it at $11.5m. Its 5-day projection was seen hitting the $70-80m range after the Christmas hype, but that seems to have fizzled out. Both Sonic and Mufasa are looking to end around the $50m range for their 5-day. We'll see how the following 3-days go.

Nosferatu not doing so bad either. $40m for its 5-day run.

 

https://x.com/Franspeech/status/1872699869275808078?s=19

Sonic the Hedgehog 3 collapsed in japan opening to $180,000. This is the lowest first day ever for the franchise in Japan.

It seems like nothing they do, even a special Japanese only name for the film, is enough to get the attention of Japanese movie goers.

 

Maybe they're just still full from eating KFC for Christmas and will get to the theater over the weekend.

 

Guess Japan only cares about Sonic Adventure (1) and Sonic Frontiers. lmao