Sonic Generations Hacking (and More!)

Interesting info there, thanks.

Also, wait what? The mouth is animated through bones...? Really?! Wow, that's... interesting. Looks like no need for flexes after all :p (unless cutscene animations are to be made; doubt it)

 

In the material files, they're used as displacement maps. I can't figure out how though, cause just about every time I've tried them, even setting the value down low, the model has ended up bloated. So if someone can actually figure out what they're used for...it'd be helpful in how to apply them correctly, haha.

 

Look at my current project :P

Yeah, they say they're used as displacement. I don't get that. Maybe it's a naming error? Everything else makes sense though; ref = reflection, spec = specular, etc. Pow appears to be glossyness, apparently.

 

I once heard the term "fall-off," referring to Heroes' gloss-textures. Perhaps this also means "Fall-offs," though I am not sure exactly what that means, either. Either way, thought I'd throw that in.

 

If they're displacement maps, wouldn't then basically be heightmaps?

 

CUrrently I have no idea what .fal does, but I have another problem.

Alright, for anyone kind enough to answer, please enlighten me: How exactly, once you have the .model imported, do you properly export to .hxk format so you can preview the model in the Havok previewer, and then add the animations for Sonic? I've exported Sonic's model through filter settings using this tutorial, and then tried selecting Sonic's animations. NONE OF THEM WORK. They all give me the error "Wrong platform for packfile." EVERY SINGLE .HKX does this.

TwilightZoney, I saw that you were able to import the animations somehow. Care to enlighten us? :<

Note: I need this working so I can make sure I'm replacing the right animations, in case you're curious :P

EDIT: forgot to add the link lol

 

That would be because you can't. In demo 1, the hkx files were able to be used in the viewer. Since demo 2 they've been changed to a platform specific version. Which the Havok Tools we all have access to can't view them.

 

Stupid question, can somebody post here a pic of a FAL texture? Maybe that could give us some idea.

 

Or a link to the actual .fal file.

 

Maybe, but I don't feel like downloading the tools and getting them work on Wine >_>'

 

Welp, since ya asked, here's the GUN Beetle "fal" texture



And the diffuse map for comparison's sake

 

While I'm probably wrong... any chance these textures relate to the whole Hedgehog Engine global illumination light bouncing off characters thing? Perhaps someone should change them to something crazy looking and see how it reacts in-game?

 

You.... Might be right actually. I noticed the FAL textures have color to them, which shouldn't be in displacement maps (right?). On top pf that, they look more like detail maps, but they just don't work as bump maps.

I'll try making one of the character's FAL textures entirely magenta. That or, someone else can do that now that I said it, since I got work roght now :p

EDIT:

Jim told me this, but he also said the PC version has .HKX files for Sonic that COULD be opened in the viewer.

Fuck my liiiiiife x.x; Time to try and extract the .cpk of the demo...

 

Mind giving a picture to show us what the should look like with them enabled? :p

 

Those might be fallout textures. Displacement maps are greyscale.

 

Those look like specular lighting? Definitely nothing to do with displacement.

 

Well, if that's true, then I'm at a loss since specular actually seems to be "[name]_spc.dds," and if both spc and fal control the specular channel, then that means one is specular level and another is specular color, yes? Problem is, both combinations in 3DS Max give me the wrong outcome. Very odd...

EDIT: Keep in mind, Sonic Team is Japanese, and they're typing English. Internally, rollling is "spin sliding," so to them, "displacement" might not actually mean actual displacement. Maybe they mean light displacement? Dunno what that would mean though, or how that would be replicated.

 

They look like normal maps with color or detail maps.

 

I think I did something wrong.

Also when animated that shit looks creepy.