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Aile · Aug 31, 2008

Yeah, I wanted to know how well the game over track was reinstated. ^.^;;

roxahris · Aug 31, 2008

Chimpo said:

Aile said:

It may be just me (I hate finding glitches other people can't find and not being able to prove it) but at the end of Green Hill, I passed the final checkpoint. I then got game over. When I started the game again, I began at an odd area past a glitchy endpole. When I get near it, it spins and the screen warps and the ground loses its solidity.
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You got a game over in Sonic 1?
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I don't recall Aile saying anything about losing a life, which is how you would usually get a Game Over.

Quexinos · Aug 31, 2008

Tweaker said:

How so? Ignoring the fact that you have brilliant creations like Sonic Frenzy Adventure, The Fated Hour, Retro Sonic, et al... you also have obscure stuff like Emerald Ties: Crossing Fates which has some awesome design and original muisic—composed using .xm, even!
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...fixed... :v:

evilhamwizard · Aug 31, 2008

Now THIS is an achievement.

I bet Stealth is gonna score with the chicks tonight. :v:

Quexinos · Aug 31, 2008

I'm on my way over to his place right now =D

Rob Jinnai · Aug 31, 2008

Quexinos said:

I'm on my way over to his place right now =D
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The most awkward part about this is that I had to go with you since you only have the permit.

Boy, if only lines of code were rewards of quantity in your preferred gender. I may not have a lot of complete things, but I have lots of code all over the place.

And yeah, SFGHQ games aren't really the same low quality (overall) that they used to be, back when I worked around there. I'm actually quite proud at how they've grown. Unfortunately, what comes with the ability to create a Sonic game "easily", they are actually starting to be a lot of games which, IMO, are ... "just another Sonic game." They play well enough, look well enough, but really aren't unique in any particular way. Kind of a funny era.

Scarred Sun · Aug 31, 2008

Rob Jinnai said:

Quexinos said:

I'm on my way over to his place right now =D
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The most awkward part about this is that I had to go with you since you only have the permit.

Boy, if only lines of code were rewards of quantity in your preferred gender. I may not have a lot of complete things, but I have lots of code all over the place.

And yeah, SFGHQ games aren't really the same low quality (overall) that they used to be, back when I worked around there. I'm actually quite proud at how they've grown. Unfortunately, what comes with the ability to create a Sonic game "easily", they are actually starting to be a lot of games which, IMO, are ... "just another Sonic game." They play well enough, look well enough, but really aren't unique in any particular way. Kind of a funny era.
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I imagine that fan games are not unlike art—there was such a push to get things as lifelike and accurate to the real world as possible, and once that was finally accomplished, there was the freedom to do surreal and unique work.

So once we finally nail "this is a Sonic game for the PC," I imagine there'll be more innovation.

Overlord · Aug 31, 2008

Rob Jinnai said:

muteKi said:

Also, the method they used screams to me of do-it-on-the-cheap-as-quick-as-possible-with-shitty-programmers - which would explain:

a) Why it was on GBA
b) Why they weren't given the ASM source - they'd be unable to use it
c) The utterly atrocious physics
d) The awful-as-fuck sound
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Re: Point B -- isn't it actually that the original assembler source has been lost? Or that's what I remember hearing.

But for the most part it's pretty indicative of where Sega's "Sonic" priorities are these days. I think they're trying really hard to leave the past in the past and move on with their "new" Sonic.
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Hi. That was actually my post, not muteKi's. ;P

The ASM has not been lost, no - see how S1 for iPod has been using the original code. Sega just threw it out there for a while as a reason why they were emulating rather than porting, but I suppose after the GBA utter hashup they decided it might be an idea to actually use the material after all, even though it took more effort.

The coders of this are quite obviously terrible. Even if you DID give them the ASM I'm willing to bet they'd have no fucking clue where to start.

Muzozavr · Sep 2, 2008

Holy fuck Stealth, I don't know ANYTHING about coding, so I can't judge at that, but the sheer ACCURACY of this port just blowed me away, to a galaxy far far away and then some!!
First I hear the perfect music. This quite frankly startled me already, cause I can be pretty bitchy about perfect music renditions, so um... I just HAD to try oddball stuff in this.
OK. I then try some different kinds of iffy slope jumps. They work exactly as they did.
OK. Down loop jump, as it's the only loop jump I can actually DO. :P Perfect!
OK. A weird something I call "magical speed boost" as it's the only way I can describe it. IT WORKS.
This is awesome, and with exception of the low resolution of GBA and the "VisualBoyAdvance" I felt as if I was playing the original 16-bit game on Sega Genesis. Awesome.

BlazeHedgehog · Sep 2, 2008

Scarred Sun said:

Rob Jinnai said:

Quexinos said:

I'm on my way over to his place right now =D
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The most awkward part about this is that I had to go with you since you only have the permit.

Boy, if only lines of code were rewards of quantity in your preferred gender. I may not have a lot of complete things, but I have lots of code all over the place.

And yeah, SFGHQ games aren't really the same low quality (overall) that they used to be, back when I worked around there. I'm actually quite proud at how they've grown. Unfortunately, what comes with the ability to create a Sonic game "easily", they are actually starting to be a lot of games which, IMO, are ... "just another Sonic game." They play well enough, look well enough, but really aren't unique in any particular way. Kind of a funny era.
Click to expand...

I imagine that fan games are not unlike art—there was such a push to get things as lifelike and accurate to the real world as possible, and once that was finally accomplished, there was the freedom to do surreal and unique work.

So once we finally nail "this is a Sonic game for the PC," I imagine there'll be more innovation.
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A few people have already started to do that, actually.

Amaterasu · Sep 13, 2008

Can this project get any more awesome? I THINK NOT Well, at least till it's finished.

British Gaijin · Sep 18, 2008

Can somebody up R11A Genesis and this Sonic GBA to a place where I can actually download from?
I'd like to sing praises, but 404 neterrors and the like sure do taint what I'm sure is an amazing project.

Fuck your referrer bollocks, copying the link makes no difference. It's a real 404 for me.

Yuzu · Sep 18, 2008

Emulation Zone's down, let's hope it's not for good.

Polygon Jim · Sep 20, 2008

Isn't it down like every other day =P?

Squints · Sep 20, 2008

British Gaijin said:

Can somebody up R11A Genesis and this Sonic GBA to a place where I can actually download from?
I'd like to sing praises, but 404 neterrors and the like sure do taint what I'm sure is an amazing project.

Fuck your referrer bollocks, copying the link makes no difference. It's a real 404 for me.
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Yeah, same here. I followed the link, copy/pasted, hell, I even retyped the URL and it didn't work. So let's hope they come back up soon, I want to get my hands on this!

Polygon Jim · Sep 20, 2008

Well here's R11A for you guys, but I never downloaded Sonic GBA so I can't upload it.

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MoDule · Sep 20, 2008

Sonic GBA should be on the wiki. You could check there for a link.

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