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Concept Art & Mockups - Aquatic Ruin Mockups Needed!!

Discussion in 'Sonic 2 HD (Archive)' started by Vangar, Mar 13, 2008.

  1. Namagem

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    What does that really small text say? It's really difficult to read.
    Awesome art, I really think that your art would give this project a boost, both publically and for private moral. Congrats on such an epic art.
     
  2. Elratauru

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    Mmm as an artist I must say that I like that art, good ilumination, shadows and colors, but it feels too ... Sonic X-ish xD...the draw style is good anyway. The only thing I don't like myself is the logo and font... Its cool but its not the "sonic 2" art style and direction.

    Keep it classy.

    Ah this remember some shit I vectorized long time ago...

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    Clean vector, Green Hill background, like a tribute to Sonic 1 =P
     
  3. muteKi

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    It was from the Japanese Sonic 2 box art:
    "Don't just sit there and / waste your precious time / When you want to do something, / do it right away. Do it when you can. / It's the only way to live a life without regrets."

    Box art in question.
     
  4. Chimpo

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    No it doesn't.

    My only complaint to Scanline is that the mouth is way too high. Otherwise, cumming buckets.
     
  5. Sciz

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    I've always liked the way that the Japanese material would occasionally throw unsolicited bits of advice at the player. As though the developers (or at least the marketers) were trying to convey Sonic's philosophy on life to the players, and influence them a bit. Someone should come up with a similar tagline for Project Retro.

    And lovely work, scanline. We can certainly use more artists. :)
     
  6. Vincent

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    Scanline's drawing and shading proved his skills as an artist, even if the image He posted was actually a personal interpretation of the S2HD, made long before we started it.
    The next drawings, will require the same original style as the official artworks set, black eyes with the orange reflection, the mouth a little bit downwards and spikes proportions, but hey, I now definitely feel just as Chimpo's comment!

    Didn't pay attention to boxart text before, but Love this one, it perfectly sounds like our development's motto!
    We'll include this one in.
     
  7. scanline99

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    Man, cheers for all the comments guys. Very flattering, and candidly honest - muchly appreciated. Rest assured the changes to the eyes and mouth are in the works... well, they're slated to be modified - it won't take long, so yeah, watch this space.

    To defend my work in a couple of areas - mainly mentioning this as an interesting side note to those who may not have picked up on the details - with regards to the logo, this is directed mainly at Elratauru (thanks for the comments, by the way)... I'd like to highlight that I didn't take this logo from nowhere. Whilst, yes, the logo is not an exact replica of the original found on the boxart/title screen, I wanted to kinda add my own flare, and provide a sorta easter egg to those who are sad enough to pick up on such details as the following... My version of the logo draws heavily upon the one seen at the end of the credits of Sonic 2 (which is quite unique, font wise and tonally). Allow me to share a reminder shot I nicked from a Youtube video kindly uploaded by some punter (its just quicker that way :)...):


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    So yeah, similar proportions going on here, and obviously, the red 2 and then the white 'SONIC' with blue glowish outline has been replicated in mine. To be honest, I think its far classier than the original Sonic logo which simply wouldn't have been so in-keeping with the composition. Then again, it depends on your definition of 'classy' I guess. Anyway, this can all change as time goes on, if we decide to use this in any way. There's always room for change and improvement and I'm flexible. Just thought I'd throw that out there for general interest.

    Oh, and with the mouth - yeah looking back at it, it's all kinds of crazy high!! I was sorta taking a leaf outta the boxart illustrator's book for Sonic CD (Jap/Eur version), my favourite Sonic game, incidentally.


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    Mouth is higher than usual here, and I kinda liked it at the time. I would definitely change it now though, its verging on ridiculous in my work. muteKi, good spot with the text, obviously I wanted the Japanese link in there somehow. And yeah, definitely up for the idea of using it as a motto, Vincent. It's fitting.

    Hell, with such positive support, I'd love to make another like this with Tails and Eggman (as well as Sonic) closer to the final release of Sonic 2 HD whenever that'll be. Sexy.
     
  8. Canned Karma

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    Even if this only ever sees widespread release on people's computers, I can't imagine they'd say no to having some awesome boxart to go with it. We already have quite a few extras planned for when the core game is done, and the art section alone is going to be something to behold.
     
  9. Vincent

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    Yes, keep that logo because it will be fantastic to see improved! :)

    Whatever the improvements or new artwork will be like, it's important to remind the "spirit" behind the very artwork appeared on Sonic "golden age".
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    Why? Because those artworks contained the soul that inspired us, in proposing a new "Alternative Good Future" (SCD reference) of nowadays HD standards era out of Sonic The Hedgehog.

    Sp by any means, let's keep into account all the original references, artwork, text and ideas together but let's improve them further on an even more wonderful level because we CAN and MUST do this.
    There will be much more in S2HD than S2HD, and it will unveiled little by little.
     
  10. nineko

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    In before "Sonic the Screen Saver HD"
     
  11. Exodus

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    Vincent is entirely right, all this extra work the project has created is like our concept art and artwork for the S2HD game.

    Maybe in years to come somebody will make Super HD Sonic 2 referencing our work, and, just as we have been influenced by the sonic teams artwork, they could be influenced by ours!
     
  12. scanline99

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    Right, so here's a more true-to-retroness Sonic - eyes, mouth and proportions adjusted to match the original artwork. I decided to turn it into another 'publicity' poster. Graphically I've gone for a muted, sophisticated look, the non-focus tested Sonic look, the look that shows this is for real, mature Sonic fans. I hope you guys don't find it too moody.


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    Enjoy!
     
  13. LOst

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    scanline99, that Sonic takes me back to the early 90s when there were like one cool Japanese Sonic drawing and 100 copies of fat Sonics on UK and US posters, LOL.

    Your shading is excellent. It's okay to do fat Sonics :P We're back in 1992D now :)
     
  14. scanline99

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    Hmm. So, are you saying you like the fat Sonic or should I shave off some weight there, [I'm hoping he still looks cool!]? Maybe it's just early in the morning for me and I'm not understand what you've written, LOst. Lol.

    Again, kinda in relation to what I said above, I'm taking hints from the (presumably Japanese) illustrator for the Jap/European Sonic CD boxart which is the pinnacle in my opinion. I guess with the weight he could look a bit western-style, with the face, a bit Japanese. A hybrid, if you will!


    Ed: Just to show a full body shot of the afformentioned chubby Japanese Sonic!:

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  15. Vincent

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    Scanline99 you have talent.
    The composition now (from Sonic to the text) it's starting to look "official" and something we will definitely use as promo.

    I'd like to post my suggestions as a quick mockup image of your great composition:

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    -The pupil size is thinner just like in every official artwork (the reflection too should be thinner)
    -The orange reflection is almost invisible but on the lower edge
    -The shoe more elongated
    -Remove the transparent green material above the eyes
    -Make 2HD stand out more with a lighter red
    -About Sonic fatness I like it, but you could try a slighty thinner ver to make everyone happy! :D
     
  16. LOst

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    (Feel free to follow my guidelines, but you don't have to!)


    I am saying it is okay. But if you want my advice to make it more Japanese... First of all, you got the right base proportions, shading and the right pose line. Nothing wrong with the spikes, hands or boots:
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    Just small details. if you can't undo your work, then no need to fix them. let's look at the legs:
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    Belly can be smaller. Some people think Sonic should be smaller:
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    His ears has changed over time. Oldschool, his ear faces away from his center:
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    Geometric shapes are incorrect by my eyes. I might be wrong. Japanes art is very hard to translate into 3D, especially anime:
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    If you look at the title screen of Sonic 3, he looks like a inflated balloon. It was the first try in an original Sonic game to make Sonic from a 3D model. In your drawing, try shrink the red circle areas, but still keep them round, and ears shouldn't be sharp. leave the tail, it is perfect:
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    The areas around Sonic mouth and his eyebrows are very swollen. This is the hardest part to correct:
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    And with a little plastic surgery using MSPaint:
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    XD, never pay 10.000 to do plastic surgery, you'll end up like Michael Jackson.


    I hope this will help, a little at least. Good luck! Great work so far :)
     
  17. scanline99

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    Man, what an advanced break down LOst, cheers for that - I'll do my best to address all the problems you've raised, and of course, Vincent's corrections as well. Later on guys.
     
  18. scanline99

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    Aight guys, here's the adjulstments - LOst, sorry to disappoint you but whilst your suggested changes were completely valid and accepted, some of them would have been too much work to implement for little gain imo (it's my fault, when I made the image all that time ago, I didn't build in easy adjustability in the way that I do now to my work).

    However, the important stuff such as the eyes, bloated muzzle and shoes have been addressed, plus a couple of other niggly bits here and there.


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  19. Tweaker

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    Oh wow—that looks much better! It still looks a bit inappropriately chubby in some parts, but that already looks a lot more like the original Japanese artwork.

    You're doing an amazing job, scanline! I took a look at your DevArt and you're a fantastic artist. It's great to have someone like you here at Sonic Retro. :)
     
  20. Elratauru

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