Almost all games with a CaC system are RPGs/fighters though. A Sonic platformer game with a "insert yourself into Sonic's world!" roleplaying element mainly appeals to children/furries. Not that that's a bad thing in itself, just that it can be a turn-off for folks that don't fit in those categories. It's bad here simply because Sonic Team is mashing different gameplay styles, instead of focusing on a single one. That, and trying to cater to three different parts of the fanbase (modern, classic, deviantart) in one title. It's a bit of an unfocused mess.
Right. Like, yes, there are 3 different play styles, but instead of changing the genre completely it's just like "hey, run differently." They're all built off the modern Sonic gameplay which has been edited and tweaked since 2008. Plus in a way a 3rd gameplay might be good as it might add a reasonable amount of difference to reusing levels. Sonic Generations side missions got experimental and it was kinda weird sometimes (Espio's grappling hook, Vector throwing you, things like that that came out of nowhere and were only used once). I'd rather have something refined than a bunch of strange, underdeveloped 1 off gimmicks. Hey, one good thing though. Did you all see the variety of wisps that were in that level alone? Well, you couldn't use them yet, but assuming each color is a different wisp that's like 5 different wisps in a single level. Colors never used more than 2 per level. Given how Original the Character uses wisps that might be rather fun. Also I need to hear that song now. What is it it sounds like I might be into it. Speaking of music, want to talk about all over the place? That's all over the place.
WHY FUCKING WHY Ya know I actually came up with an action game concept that took notes from the homing attack, and my solution was also a grappling hook/hookshot :specialed: Spoiler
That's Richard Jacques doing the music in that hero gameplay trailer right? It sounds a lot like his work on Racing Transformed and then those lyrics sound like Sonic R. The City Escape first-level-has-vocals thing by way of Sonic R? I fucking love it.
Lol, I think a lot of people have that idea. I know I will, though here's hoping they give you classic proportions. The only way they can screw this up though is if they make you play the OC character first before the 2 Sonics. Which I have a feeling that might happen. As in you time travel or reality warp to recruit Sonic & friends and then you can play as the Sonics. I hope they don't do that.
"the gameplay doesn't look all that interesting" even though it's literally Sonic Generations 2. "it's a case of Sonic Team spreading themselves too thin" even though the last time they've actually done this was Sonic Adventure/2/Heroes (all big successes), and the stupid Sonic 06 split; they've been very focused since then, and this is why they handed stuff off to Dimps for the longest time. If you've ever played Generations, you'd know that switching between Classic and Modern aren't all that different, and that's why they made the two styles different acts that you can switch between whenever like that. I'm not even sure what you mean by "this specific medium", because Generations and Colors have done a pretty good job with fleshing out what they're doing. You also assume that custom characters don't just play Modern levels with a minor twist, which makes a lot more sense and is probably what people actually want. "it doesn't really bring a whole lot to the table" and it's "just kind of out of left field" except it's one of the things millions have wanted in a Sonic game for at least a decade now, if not much longer. Sonic is apparently in this bad position, that this is just "playing to the whole meme-y nature", that "the answer isn't to embrace it", even though people have been begging Sega for years to do just that. And the best part is that this feature would still very much be there if the English Sonic Twitter didn't exist, because the feature itself has nothing to do with one-shot memes posted on a Twitter account, it's character customization. None of your post makes any sense. Nova was absolutely right. Like, this. What even is this? First off, the game is literally Generations 2. I have no idea why a character creator suddenly changes the entire nature of the game. Second off, we know Sonic Team probably had no say in Sonic Boom, except maybe consulting for the character redesigns? We at least know they didn't touch the games at all, and the show itself is actually really good. So... if your hate for Sonic Team is based largely on games that weren't actually Sonic Team...?????
Honestly, I'm looking forward to finally achiving my childhood dream of playing as a bumper. Truly a force to be reckoned with.
The Bubsy jokes on Youtube and Twitter aren't stopping anytime soon, so I'll just give some more thoughts on the customisation aspect. The customisation should have at least some minor effects on the gameplay besides the different attributes of the different animals. Something to replace Generations' customisation options. Oh, and IMO equipment should be gradually unlocked, by playing through the story and by doing side stuff. Would give the player the incentive to do optional missions (I'd be very surprised if the game won't have optional missions like Generations and Colours DS), besides the usual art & music gallery that were in Colours and Generations. But at this point anything would be better than the incredibly lame completion bonus in Lost World. And is it just me having some kinda weird conspiracy theory in my head, or could Sonic Team have gotten the idea for Forces' character creation stuff via DIMPS? Cause - for those who don't know - DIMPS is the developer of most of the DBZ fighting games, including Xenoverse. Their logo is even on the back of the box. Maybe they're even co-developing it (like Unleashed PS2 & Wii) now that handheld Sonic is pretty much history. The 2D gameplay from the trailer sort of reminds me of Colours DS, and that's not a bad thing at all, cause that game smoothly integrated the wisps into the levels without them breaking the flow (something the Wii version with its Cube and Spike wisps did rather poorly). Also: hey look it's Slingerland's old friend. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdFop0zyv2g[/media]
Well, I quit. If one step forward, one mile back is how this is going to be, then I quit, man. This is a shitty, shitty, idea, that unfortunately, will sell like hotcakes. Cinossu Edit: yeah let's just take out that first sentence. It was unnecessary.
So...did you read my post or? Just because a lot of people have wanted it doesn't really mean it should happen. Yeah a bunch of people whined about wanting classic Sonic back, but only because there was genuine value in doing it. It's when the series was objectively at it's best in both sales and reception, so why not take a swing at it. A lot of people want Princess Sally to be playable in a Sonic game, but that doesn't mean she should be. We've seen footage from the game that demonstrates a few of the gameplay features, and from what we've seen it looks like this character has his own separate stages from Modern and Classic Sonic (maybe with altered layouts). There might be more than meets the eye, but at first glance this is just a slower Modern Sonic with a blaster and a grappling hook. Don't really see that making anyone jump out of their seats. The character creator is the biggest deal with this new gameplay style, and arguably the weirdest and most experimental. Assume this does well and they plan to keep using this feature in future games. How would they work it in? Would this just be how the series carries on. maybe they make this it's own thing. But then what becomes of the main series games? I'm not saying it doesn't do anything new, I'm saying it feels tacked on. The move would have been stronger if the character creator was the game imo. Lastly, Sonic Team spreading themselves thin has lead to them developing a ton of small unimpressive gameplay styles, none of which are interesting or fleshed out enough to be worth a damn. I don't want to go into the whole discussion again for fear of being accused of bringing back the "circlejerk", but I will say that there's a reason they keep attaching all of these new ideas and concepts onto Modern Sonic's gameplay, and it's not because they compliment the style. Instead of just making Sonic Generations 2 and potentially fleshing out a gameplay style people already kind of liked, they made Original Character the game feat. Sonic Generations and Knuckles. People are just kind of upset that they're throwing more shit into the franchise, in desperate attempts to appeal to the fanbase, rather than making a single game that everyone unanimously recognizes as "Sonic", even if they don't personally like it.
You tell me I didn't read your post, then proceed to ignore mine. You even drop how you were singled out for getting irrationally "upset" like this. "People" aren't upset, specific individuals like YOU are. You don't speak for everyone else, who seem to think it's either hilarious or legit good, and some even saw it coming long in advance. They "keep attaching all these new ideas and concepts" for the same reason any video game ever does; making the same thing year after year doesn't really work unless you've managed to trick people into thinking it's a good idea for your specific game, which also requires massive sales and multiple teams going at it, and one misstep can cost you. That's the realm of sports games and CoD, not Sonic the freaking Hedgehog. For what it's worth, PSO2, a Sega property that is developed by what used to be a major part of Sonic Team, was doing this years before Xenoverse. I guess you could then argue DB Online (the predecessor to Xenoverse), but noone played that game.
Now that you mention it, the Burst Wisp has only ever appeared in the DIMPS-made games up until this point. They've taken over Sonic Team right under our noses, the madmen. :v: That's an MMO, so I kinda feel that's a different story. Xenoverse only has MMO-ish elements here and there, the main focus is the self-inserting into the story.
Eh, not an entirely fair comparison. DragonBall fans typically buy many games in the series as an impulse buy even if it's clearly a bad game (not saying Xenoverse in specific is bad). Plus, the majority of us here are happy to bring our dank memes to life and don't particularly care that other people find enjoyment from something we don't like. This game needs an online mode in some form, though. There's no inherent flaw with a character creator to really justify hate towards it, but I understand it has its fair share of connotations behind it. Still doesn't justify the hate the character creation is getting just because it's in a Sonic game... What bothers me is how this game's release is near Mario Odyssey. I feel this would make it a tough sell for Switch owners. Also, this forum has post icons? Just noticed this now.
^ Okay, fair point But, I mean DragonBall console fans rarely skip a game in the series, compared to here where many skipped Shadow, 06, and Boom.
