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ICEknight · May 24, 2012

dsrb said:

Endri said:

[An Asteron destroyed by the player] pops up an woodwork animal, just like any other badnik does! When it self-destructs, however, no animal pops up at all... uh-oh, it means that it probably just kills the poor animal during the self-destruction process...
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Maybe they were never meant to be destructible and the animal is just a leftover from them not altering the code and overlooking the fact that this one can be reached? If so, we're supposed to think no animals were ever hurt (and, by implication, inside). Will someone please think of the animals
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Same thing happens with the rocket sharks in Hydro City when they collide with Sonic and explode. Poor things. =(

dsrb · May 24, 2012

Oh yeah, good point! And the fake rock dudes in Lava Reef Zone, too.

Overlord · May 24, 2012

Rika Chou said:

(there's a page about this over at Sonic cult.
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Indeed, this is what I was referencing, hence the re-found bit =P

MainMemory · May 24, 2012

Looking through SBZ2 in SonLVL, there are indeed several invalid monitors embedded in walls around that area, and when converting them into "Invisible solid block" objects, their subtypes result in sizes that match the wall they're placed in.
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ashthedragon · May 25, 2012

I have found a rip of "Cabezon Mix", a music cassette tape who was incluided with a spanish game magazine called Superjuegos back in the 90's . It incluided music remixes from Sonic & Knuckles, Dynamite Headdy and Street Figther 2. I though this could be interesting, it's very obscure and sort of official thing. Like supersonic dance attack.
It includes:
Side A
- Cabezon mix ( translated to english it should be big head mix). It should be based off dynamite headdy ( although I don't recon anything of it coming from the game...I haven't played it that much anyways)

Side B
- Go Hyper Go ( Based off Sonic & Knuckles)
- Bienvenido al nuevo nivel ( Welcome to the new level) based off Street figther 2

and some photos ( of my boyfriend's personal copy, although I've not ripped the music myself)

Uberham · May 25, 2012

MainMemory said:

Looking through SBZ2 in SonLVL, there are indeed several invalid monitors embedded in walls around that area, and when converting them into "Invisible solid block" objects, their subtypes result in sizes that match the wall they're placed in.
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So someone at sega dun goofed?

funny.

ICEknight · May 26, 2012

ashthedragon said:

I have found a rip of "Cabezon Mix", a music cassette tape who was incluided with a spanish game magazine called Superjuegos back in the 90's . It incluided music remixes from Sonic & Knuckles, Dynamite Headdy and Street Figther 2. I though this could be interesting, it's very obscure and sort of official thing. Like supersonic dance attack.
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Ah, the memories. I remember listening to that while reading Nintendo Acción and Super Juegos magazines... probably just once.

- Cabezon mix ( translated to english it should be big head mix). It should be based off dynamite headdy ( although I don't recon anything of it coming from the game...I haven't played it that much anyways)
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Most of the voice samples in that song come from the game, as well as many sound effects. The song itself doesn't have anything to do with it, though.

Thanks for posting it!

PicklePower · May 29, 2012

Maybe I'm just late to the party, but,

Edit: Actually, it looks like Facebook just lets you put a vanity username or user ID in square brackets now to get an icon of that user's profile picture. So [[sonic]] is getting the profile picture from http://facebook.com/sonic.

TheInvisibleSun · May 29, 2012

That is still quite cool though.

Adamis · May 29, 2012

Bunnie Rabbot appeared in MAD...

TheInvisibleSun · May 29, 2012

.....And why is she Roundhouse Kicking Chuck Norris?

Arique · May 29, 2012

While we're on the subject of the Sonic cartoons, Apparently Sonic Underground will be premiering on Disney XD on June 11th @ 10 AM EST. Why Disney decided to go with that piece of shit rather than airing Sonic SatAM, I don't know.

Overlord · May 29, 2012

1) SatAM is worse than Underground
2) The more likely reason - at the time Underground was made, Disney owned DiC.

Dark Sonic · May 30, 2012

Adamis said:

Bunnie Rabbot appeared in MAD...

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That's... quite strange.

Espyo · Jun 9, 2012

So I saw this video and figured I should try to see if it's possible to perform any shortcut with the method used in Red Mountain 2 (but with normal Sonic, obviously). After a while of fighting with the camera, I just activated debug mode and flew around. After a while of fighting with the lava, I was finally able to go under it (you just need to go away from the lava's reach, it seems its hitplane is just a circle), because I was curious about a room I found, which is just Gamma's final room.
Anyway, as I was flying around, I came across this:

This is 3rd unreachable ring in the game (as far as I know), and this one is really far. It's under the lava, in one of the corners of the lava's square: the part where you walk on a wall, like 15 seconds into the level, it's in that corner. Coordinates are roughly X=-1568 Y=54 Z=1540, so it rules out the chance of it being a dummied out object with 0 as every attribute (like what happens in some of Sonic Adventure 2: Battle's levels).

(And I just noticed I used bold, italics and underlines in this post, and it wasn't on purpose :v: )

Rika Chou · Jun 10, 2012

I saw this interesting post on AssemblerGames: http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?1343-Sonic-3d-Flickie-s-island-on-saturn&p=587879&viewfull=1#post587879

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Here's a REALLY late reply to the messages. The Genesis version of Sonic 3D Blast was developed first, and the Saturn version was a port because Sega didn't get good feedback about the 3D Sonic they were developing for the Saturn. The Saturn version was started at the beginning of July and was in stores for Thanksgiving. I wrote a program that took the 68000 assembly source code and converted it into C++, the artists re-rendered the sprites (they were done in Maya I think, and then converted to 16 colors for the Genesis and 256 colors for the Saturn). My brother worked on some interface code, that would allow the hardware sprites on the Genesis to be mapped to the Saturn equivalents, and to draw the map (which went from 256 16 color characters to 2048 characters 256 color characters). I think he did the environmental effects (foggy effect and rain drops in one of the levels) whilst I was writing the converter. The Genesis version was finished at the end of September, and so I ported that code with my 68k2c program and then I had to add memory management (the Saturn had 2MB of ram, but the graphics took twice as much memory as the Genesis version, which was on a 4MB rom). Background music was handled as red book audio files on the CD, and then I spent the last 2 weeks adding extra graphical features (such as trees that would drop snow as the player approached) that didn't affect the game play but enhanced the look and feel of the game. I think the in game maps were drawn as a screen, with embedded font due to the limited time we had to develop the game. The bonus level was delivered to us from Sega of Japan, and we had nothing to do with the implementation of that (I think it came from the aborted game). The same code was used in the PC version, although it used big endian coding, so every time a 32 bit value from memory was read it was swapped (this meant we could keep all the data structures identical). Since we didn't have the code for the Saturn bonus level, my brother wrote the bonus level for the PC based on the Genesis version of the game. Neil Harding
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Dark Sonic · Jun 10, 2012

^Interesting. I always wondered why the PC version didn't use the same special stage.

dsrb · Jun 10, 2012

Thanks for that! A very interesting read, as are Neil's subsequent replies in that thread.

ashthedragon · Jun 10, 2012

This is highly interesting! So that bonus stage came from a cancelled 3D sonic game? Could that be...xtreme? or the one who came to be Sonic World?

JaxTH · Jun 11, 2012

ashthedragon said:

This is highly interesting! So that bonus stage came from a cancelled 3D sonic game? Could that be...xtreme? or the one who came to be Sonic World?
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Since he said it was delivered from Japan I'm going to have to say that it wasn't Xtreme.

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