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  1. Dan Genesis

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    As it was predicted. Plus, this is like some cute Member
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    The only alternate universes that are in any way consistent are Moebius, Blaze's Dimension, and the No Zone. All the others that have appeared were simple one-offs, really.

    And there's even one that's completely dead - Cyborg Sonic's Dimension - pretty much only Robo-Robotnik (Eggman in the comics today) remains of that universe, and now wreaks havoc on Mobious Prime because Robotnik Prime bit it.
     
  2. Paps/KKM

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    More like "was ahnihilated out of existance". Otherwise, there'd be no problem with Sonic winning :P

    Anyways, some of you may know that Ian has taken writing commissions; pay him and he'll do fan fics, comic scripts, etc. Artist Deebs asked him two fanfics about Finitevus, and they're quite a good read.

    "Shadow from an Emerald Star" is a semi-official story detailing Finitevus' backstory, his life as an Albion scientist and his beginnings as a villain. I name it semi-official because it was written by the main writer of the comics and doesn't contradict anything, but it's obviously fan-fiction, so take it for what it is. I personally have to problem picturing it as Finitevus' backstory in the comics, though.

    "World Peace" is a "What-If" scenario, showing what would happen if Finitevus' plan of turning Knuckles into Enerjak and cleansing Mobius with him would work. Interesting story.

    The two stories combined allow for a magnificent understanding of the character and how he works. Good job on Deebs' part on getting Ian to do this.
     
  3. JaxTH

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    Pay someone to write you a fanfic, wow. :/
     
  4. Paps/KKM

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    Why not? It's like paying an official comic artist to draw. And seeing it's not that pricey, it's a good deal. :/
     
  5. Herm the Germ

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    Don't forget Mobius: X Years Later. :v:
    And technically, Sonic Underground is part of that multiverse, too… And, as Sonic X issue 40 has shown, that one, too. :B
     
  6. Lanzer

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    Ah the wonders of the multiverse! TMNT has to deal with the same thing.
     
  7. Ashram

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    Wow, World Peace is pretty awesome. At first it kinda reminded me of DBZ a bit, what with Enerjak going around killing the Z-Figh- I mean, Freedom Fighters. At least Locke didn't die of cancer before this all started.

    Shadow from an Emerald Star is pretty good as well. Ian's a great writer when he isn't bound to Archie.
     
  8. Aquaslash

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    This thing was amazing. Now I understand how fragged up in the head Finitevus truly is.
     
  9. Dan Genesis

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    Ah, yes, I forgot about Mobious:XYL and Sonic X. And Sonic Underground was one of those simple one-offs I mentioned (has it ever appeared outside that one issue?)
     
  10. Paps/KKM

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    To be honest, in terms of understanding Finitevus I found Shadow of an Emerald Star to be better, if only because it shows so perfectly the change and evolution of the character pre- and post- Chaos Syphoning Knuckles.
     
  11. Herm the Germ

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    Well, as a TV show, though, granted, it can be debated whether that's the same universe or not. Then again, the last page of the Sonic X comic implied to take place in the TV show. :v
     
  12. JaxTH

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    The Sonic X comics take place between episodes. As for Sonic Underground, the same rules would apply but Underground has never been seen again outside that one issue.
     
  13. Twinbee MkII

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    Well I for one am really enjoying where Ian has taken the comic. Considering how large a Scourge fan I am, seeing him get his own arc coming up in Sonic Universe makes me giddy. Here's to hoping Ian can further flesh him out and make him all the more different from his true blue counterpart <3
     
  14. Lanzer

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    Penders speaks:
     
  15. David The Lurker

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    Elliot S! Maggin and Scott Shaw! are going to be witnesses on Ken Penders' side of things? Well that's...something. Look, I'm all for Ken getting royalties for reprints of his work. That should have been something set up in the first place. It's just...everything else that bothers me. Ken, look. I know you're not reading this even though I'm addressing you, but...just let the Sonic comic go. You wrote for it for over a decade, yes. You grew an attachment to the characters, fine. We all have an attachment to the Sonic characters in some form or another, else we wouldn't be on this message board. But you were writing glorified fanfiction. Fanfiction you got paid for. Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Eggman, Sally, Bunnie, Rotor, Antoine...those were never your characters. I don't care how many more you "came up with," but they really only mattered because they were in a Sonic the Hedgehog comic book. No one would have cared about "The Brotherhood" if you didn't have Knuckles and Angel Island and the Master Emerald hiding out in the back. People read that stuff for Knuckles, not for his father/grandfather/great-grandfather/great-great-grandfather.

    I'm not sure what he's referring to with the whole Hershey thing (unless its simply a case of "she's not on screen because of a special assignment oh look Geoffry St. John is being a dick and she's his wife oh well" kind of thing) but all those characters he may or may not have come up with were just supporting characters in a comic about a blue hedgehog. What kind of a market would Ken even have for a comic that featured all of these characters but none of the principle ones? And this hatred for Ian Flynn that just seems to ooze out of everywhere...Ken, you had that job for years. Archie fired you, not Ian. I know you will claim to not hold any particular grudges against Ian, but to go out of your way and say that if you were to get back the comic, you'd simply ignore everything he had done? That's just silly. You've worked with the big guns before, Ken. Look at Superman. Look at Spider-Man. They've had thousands of issues dedicated to them, written by a multitude of creators. They didn't own these characters, and they were lucky if anything they came up with were to stick around for more than their particular run. How many stories have been retconed, rewritten, or outright ignored?

    The fact that Ian took everything you did and kept it is phenomenal. He could have stepped in and changed a lot more than he did. But he didn't. For some reason, he decided to respect your entire body of work. Even though a lot of it, especially at the end, was incredibly poor, he decided to work around it. Build up from it. Make things progress in a couple issues that would have taken you over two years. See, that's the problem. Ken, you were too wrapped up in the Soap Opera aspects of the characters. You were writing about a video game character, which is primarily focused on action. You control the character. You make it do things. You don't sit there and read what is going on in his mind about his love life for thirty minutes. We want to see Sonic running around, fighting Eggman, maybe save someone and then act like a bit of a dick. That's who he is. Sure, you have more layers to it. But if you add too much, or stretch it out, or dedicate multiple issues to Sonic the Hedgehog being in school or dealing with Station Square politics or decide you want the 200th issue of a comic book to be about Antoine and Bunnie getting married after showing their engagement for the previous 25 issues...yeah. Glad that didn't happen, Ken.

    You should only be fighting on getting royalties, Ken. Not for the characters themselves. You barely understood the principle cast in the early days...and you certainly didn't get them later on. I know you wanted to make "season 3" and in a sense you did. But after issue 50...your heard didn't seem in it anymore? Like you blew your load and then didn't know how to clean up your mess. At least with all the hatred that Endgame generated, people could tell you were putting your all into it. Not so much later on. Focus on your other ideas, or try and come up with something new. I know, not exactly an easy thing. Maybe you and Scott Shaw! can do something! I'm sure he'd keep you grounded. Maybe add a bit of levity to a situation.
     
  16. JaxTH

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    + - Supposedly Ian is gonna killer her off, like Ian has been doing with tons of Ken's stuff  
     
  17. Ashram

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    A giant reboot just to do that? Highly doubtful. Even if the reboot is temporary, it'll probably be just to give a glimpse into the comics had Penders not had his way with them.
     
  18. I hope it's not a reboot. :|
     
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    Desperate times call for desperate measures I guess.
     
  20. Plorpus

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    How much does he charge for fanfic commissions? Because I think I'd actually pay to have him write "Sonic and Charles Barkley vs Space Dracula"