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Dragon in Sonic Adventure

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  1. Knux13

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    So, I was browsing through some old threads in Prototype Discussion, and I saw a handful of vague references to a dragon in SA. Apparently a (then) trial member here proved its existence?

    I searched around a little bit, but couldn't find anything. If this is really common knowledge, I apologize. At any rate, feel free to lock this thread after my question is answered.

    Thanks!
     
  2. MainMemory

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    Dragon says hi.

    [​IMG]
     
  4. Lanzer

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    Its amazing that a find that eluded the hackers all those years was finally found in a preview of DX of all things!

    Tell me, was this preview disc this by any chance? because if it was I could kick myself because I had this disc once! shame it got lost in a move.
     
  5. Polygon Jim

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    All the bitches.

    No it was found in an actual beta not a demo, and then found in every single version of the game because it's just a standard object. It could have been found in 2004 very easily if anyone would have bothered to check.
     
  6. MainMemory

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    No. It's one of the betas released by drx in that huge collection.

    And the dragon exists in all versions of SA btw. You just have to edit the SET file.
     
  7. So how much of the dragon actually works? Is there any patches yet to have it so you can fight against it?
     
  8. MainMemory

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    If you need to see it in action, check here and here (using debug). Getting it to actually do anything interesting would require a complete recoding of the object, and there's nobody here that can do that.
     
  9. Knux13

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    You guys rock. Sorry to have missed the Wiki.

    Anyway, I can't help but wonder if the dragon was meant for Sky Chase, or if perhaps they had planned a more in-depth flight level, a la S2. The boss would make more sense if it didn't appear with Eggman's ship nearby. . .
     
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    Personally I always felt it was meant to be a miniboss, where either it would be the entirety of Sky Chase 1/2, or something during the level Eggman would send out to get you off his back.
     
  11. MainMemory

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    Given that its textures are in the file for Sky Chase Act 1 (SHOOTING1.PVM), and its internal name (BOSS), I'd say it was meant to be the boss of Sky Chase Act 1, like the Egg Cannon is in Act 2.
     
  12. Diablohead

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    Out of all the beta stuff in sonic adventure I have always felt that the dragon is the most odd one out, would have been a sweet boss but I can sort of guess why it was removed in the end.
     
  13. Captain L

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    Does this dragon have a name? If not, we should name it! Maybe the name will spread!
     
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    Jack shit.
    Speaking of Sky Chase...It's been bugging the fuck out of me all these years...Why did they use the Saturn models in that one part of Sky Chase Act 2 in the DC version?
     
  15. Lanzer

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    My guess is that what they showed was an early alpha when they were still using the sonic jam world engine.
     
  16. Ritz

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    Well, there's that one unused soundbite with Tikal discussing a battle strategy for a certain "Gola". Could just be the standard enemy, but it's not like any of those actually needed a hint orb. Which would also explain why it was removed!

    Still a better a stand-in title than Ashura or Wechnia.
     
  17. The dragon fascinates me, as does this screenshot:

    [​IMG]

    It used to be referred to as Golah, but this was proven incorrect.
     
  18. Ritz

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    Proven? How?
     
  19. MainMemory

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    Nothing has been proven, but I think it's more likely that the voice clip is referring to the Gola badnik than another enemy with the same name. And there is also an unused clip referring to Leon.

    The only thing we know for certain, is that the game calls it "BOSS".
     
  20. Diablohead

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    Big in some weird windy valley is one I want to find out more about too, frm guessing he was going to fish / find froggy there back before they changed some textures and level designs around.
     
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