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Sonic Colours out for Wii/DS

Discussion in 'General Sonic Discussion' started by TimmiT, May 26, 2010.

  1. glem3

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    I read your link and NOWHERE there did it say tails got brainwashed. So, no, tails is probably not the final boss.

    The story apparently centers around this giant robot that sonic destroys at the start, and that wouldn't be included (nor would the "consequences" be mentioned) if it didn't have some sort of negative effect later, meaning that there's an extremely high likelihood of the robot being the final boss.

    Edit: I think all the Colors bosses might be 2D. But I don't see any relation between the colors boss battles and the unleashed boss battles. You're not chasing the enemy or anything, and it's not 2D to 3D. This is something that ALL unleashed bosses had.
     
  2. DigitalDuck

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    Not explicitly, but it's heavily implied that Robotnik does something that fucks with Tails' mind.
     
  3. Solaris Paradox

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    I love how you draw an imaginary connection between Tails's perception of Sonic and Eggman's brainwashing device. That's so cute. :v:
     
  4. DigitalDuck

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    Way to miss the point. The important part was:

    I love how you seem to think that Eggman's brainwashing device, which he has been explicitly stated to have zapped Tails with, has absolutely no effect and no relevance on the story whatsoever. That's so cute. :v:
     
  5. Solaris Paradox

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    You also bolded the bit that said "Tails now treats Sonic more as an evil-fighting best friend rather than someone to admire and look up to" for no particular reason.
     
  6. DigitalDuck

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    Change in behaviour. Because being zapped by a brainwashing machine usually has some effect, however small. And there's a reason they made the change, too.
     
  7. Solaris Paradox

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    So Tails was zapped with a brainwashing machine in Sonic Adventure 2? :v:

    EDIT: In all seriousness, no, we've already heard the rationalization for the character change, and it involves no brainwashing at all. If the brainwashing has relevance to the story, it's probably something involving "zombie Tails" or a similar mind-control cliche.
     
  8. DigitalDuck

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    No, of course not. You're mistaking cause and effect here.

    EDIT: Okay, let's sort this out. We'll start by using an analogy.


    I've thrown a ball at a window. That window is now smashed. While I may not have been the person who smashed the window, given the information I have, I'd say it's likely.

    Robotnik zapped Tails with a brainwashing machine. Tails' personality has changed slightly. While Robotnik may not have been the person who changed Tails' personality, given the information we have, I'd say it's likely.


    And no, saying "That window is broken therefore I broke it" is not a sensible counterargument, which is the analogy's equivalent of what you said.
     
  9. Quarterman

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    Not necessarily. He could function as a "double agent" of sorts, purposefully hindering Sonic's progress and reporting Sonic's movements to Robotnik, along with subtle changes in personality. This is wild mass guessing, of course, but it is a logical assumption.
     
  10. Dusk Golem

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    I think Tails is growing up naturally, HOWEVER I mean you can't zap someone with a brainwashing machine and for it to be a success and then have no effect on the character.

    I imagine Tails is just Tails but he suddenly is starting to find himself to have a new fondness of Robotnik OR MAYBE for all we know, Tails only is brainwashed when Eggman flips a switch or something. Or for that even, maybe Eggman can only control certain parts of Tails since he says he needs more power to brainwash the galaxy.

    Whatever the point, Eggman's secret scheme is to brainwash people, and he managed to hit Tails with what seems to be a brainwashing laser from the sound of things and reports it being a success. Since this game seems to be growing to have focus somewhat on Sonic and Tails brotherly relationship, as they have gone out of their way to point out how Sonic and Tails relationship has changed, this is likely a bigger deal if part of Tails is brainwashed even if it only affects him a little.

    OH GOD, I just realized this game could be full of brotherly messages. With Sonic and Tails, Yacker and his Wisp buddies, Orbot and Cubot...

    SONIC BROTHERLY LOVE
     
  11. Quarterman

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    I kinda want to see how pissed Sonic gets when he finds out the Robotnik's been fucking with Tails' mind. I expect a truly epic beatdown.
     
  12. Solaris Paradox

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    Sonic Chronicles II: The Furry Brotherhood

    ...oh god that came out wrong...
     
  13. Alpha Wolver

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    Oh man... Now I hear a story about Tails being brainwashed by Eggman and I still have to wait over a month. Great... :(
     
  14. Cooljerk

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    not to play backseat mod, but could we split the tails discussion into a new topic?
     
  15. Lanzer

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    Don't see why the brainwashing thing is apart of color's story. but if your talking about the previous discussion about tail's overall personality then I guess that needs pruning from the topic.
     
  16. Namo

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    I don't think so, it's relevant to Colors.
     
  17. MykonosFan

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    Speculation, but perhaps that's why he looks kinda pissed in the CG we got from the last trailer (Like in your avatar)?
     
  18. trakker

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    Yeah if Tails was hit by a Brainwashing beam, there no reason it would account for any real change in his personality. He's just less awe insipred by Sonic these days.

    Besided "brainwashing" is games and stuff genrally means abit more than "Im not gonna go slack jawed every time you do something".

    This brainwashing would probably reduce him to a drooling mess untill Sonic breaks him out of it. Its probably gonna be a halfway story point, because eggmans making this beam to enslave everyone, but its not powerful enough yet. although that in turn might just mean that its effect don't last very long and it wears off in a matter on minites
     
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    Knowing the shows the writers' have worked for in the past and the light hearted nature of the game though, the brain washing is probably a comedic sub-plot or something.
     
  20. Dark Sonic

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    Tails being the final boss would just ooze with awesomeness. I've always wanted to kick the crap out of him