Badniks & Bosses Art

Vincent · Oct 7, 2008

I only add blur and dodge from photoshop onto the sprite, all the shading and artwork is done in flash, as long as the shading in vector is done exactly the same, the blurring shouldnt cause any inconsistancies. Unless you simply just want the shading done in vector only, personally though, that might end up making it to gradient-y
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True, but you would have to make the exact coordinates and amount of blurring trough each new frame.
"Skips" and different garbled pixels in following frames, may really lower the animation quality.

While initially time consuming, doing manual shades with vectors gives you more control over the coherency of animation flow, for both stopped and moving parts.
No need to use gradients! I personally draw all shades manually at actual 4X resolution. Getting 3-4 shades per color is more than enough to get perfect transitions thanks to antialiasing!

so make the right arm and shoulder darker? I simply give it darker outline?
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I highlighted in green the suggestions!

Canned Karma · Oct 13, 2008

Any updates RGX?

RGX · Oct 15, 2008

Canned Karma said:

Any updates RGX?
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Sorry for the lack of appearance but I've just been busy with the Sonic shorts..
I sent my platform to Vincent, just in case I'll send it to you as well.

also I never actually contributed to "Badniks and Bosses Art"...XP

Canned Karma · Oct 16, 2008

You're not wrong - that's what happens when you try to reply to multiple threads at once! Got the PM, getting the platform uploaded.

Of course, if you want to try your hand at a few Badniks, I highly doubt you'll see anyone complaining.

Yvan · Oct 17, 2008

Some update about Grounder:

While I was working on the other frames, I made a change on the wheels, so I want you to tell me what is better:

Grounder A

or

Grounder B

Original:

Don't try to make an animated gif with these, for the moment the animation is broken.

Also what do you think of the smoke?

Vincent · Oct 17, 2008

I personally like them both, besides version B is better for shapes and light effect.

About the smoke.. It's not Smoke! :D
It's actually a Rock which jumps out from the walls they appear from!

*A suggestion to make animations smooth with Illustator:

Make the main body of Grounder (all except Belts) Layer 1
Add the Belts as new layers exactly on top of Layer 1.

By making them visible / hidden you can actually test their frames in sequence! (Without the hassle to realign all the main body pixels)

Yvan · Oct 17, 2008

Vincent said:

About the smoke.. It's not Smoke! :D
It's actually a Rock which jumps out from the walls they appear from!
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Oh yes, you're right! Now it needs a recolor

Vincent · Nov 1, 2008

Any updates on the missing frames, Yvan?

SANiK · Nov 2, 2008

*waits for the 0.5 pixel misalignment in frame 1 to be fixed*

Vincent · Nov 2, 2008

Fixing it is also pretty easy, due tracks being the only animation!

Fix method:

-Create one layer named "BODY" and put into it all the body shapes EXCEPT tracks
-Create 3 separate layers on top of "BODY" layer, then put into each of them one single frame.
-Align the tracks to the same coordinates by aligning the circles. (use the opacity settings on layers to aid you)

Yvan · Nov 4, 2008

Here I come with some updates!

I'm working on the other frames, here is the current progress.

Vincent · Nov 4, 2008

Awesome work Yvan!

Please add more color shades, and especially darker contours on the two new frames! (The head needs it alot!)

-About new frame 1, the head lightspot should be a perfect shape, like the original.
-About the old frame I tried to make the right drill, more.. Drill-like! ^^

.AI file download

Lapper · Nov 4, 2008

Truly done by a talented artist. Great work! About the shading on the 3rd frame (IMO): It should not be a smooth version of the original colours, it should be fully blended, from dark to light. But it is still great, you have gone far and beyond with this geat badnick!

SANiK · Nov 5, 2008

Yvan, your grounder makes me wish there was a plushie Grounder toy :o

Yvan · Nov 6, 2008

Although I havn't finished this frame (to Vincent: I will had more shades, so don't worry ) , I upload it just to see some comments about the wheels:

Lizam · Nov 7, 2008

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Yvan @ Nov 7 2008, 08:48 AM) [/quote]

It's looking great, but I think the wheels need to look more bulkier. They seem to be significantly thinner.

When I try to imagine what your side-on frame's wheels would look like front on, I imagine them to be thicker like the original sprite

And once the shades are done, I can picture it looking great just like the side on frame ^^

Good work.

Blanche Hodapp · Nov 7, 2008

Lizam said:

It's looking great, but I think the wheels need to look more bulkier. They seem to be significantly thinner.

When I try to imagine what your side-on frame's wheels would look like front on, I imagine them to be thicker like the original sprite
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Agreed. They look too thin in comparison to both the original sprite and the side-on view. Also (though you might be working on this anyway), they look too dark compared to the highlighting on the side-on sprite.

The bottom of the body also appears to be slightly higher off the ground on the face-on sprite compared to the side-on view.

Lapper · Nov 7, 2008

On the original, the bottom of the front facing groundr looks all cozy, but the remaster looks too spaced out.

Vincent · Nov 8, 2008

Ok! Some in-depth comparison.
(marked in green!)

1)The head sides must be more curved
2)The eyes needs darker shades
3)Shoulders are too low
4)the tracks are low as well
5)The tracks metal parts sections should follow the original

Drex · Nov 8, 2008

Well we're all being "in depth" I would like to mention that the shine the artist's right drill should end at the point of the drill not before like it is now. Copare the the "snout" drill. it's shiny detail follows all the way to the tip of the drill unlike the aforementioned one which ends somewhere before.

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