<table><th>Group</th><th>Guests</th><th>Pend Memb</th><th>Trial Memb</th><th>Member</th><th>Oldbie</th><th>Tech Memb</th><th>Wiki Sysop</th><th>Moderator</th><th>Administrator</th><tr><td>Read</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td></tr><tr><td>Edit/Minor Edit</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td></tr><tr><td>Create Page</td><td>No</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td></tr><tr><td>Upload</td><td>No</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td></tr><tr><td>Reupload</td><td>No</td><td>No</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td></tr><tr><td>Move</td><td>No</td><td>No</td><td>No</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td></tr><tr><td>Rollback</td><td>No</td><td>No</td><td>No</td><td>No</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td></tr><tr><td>Sysop Block<br/>(Block, Protect,<br/>Delete, LocalUpload)</td><td>No</td><td>No</td><td>No</td><td>No</td><td>No</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td></tr></table>Misfits + Pending Approval get no rights other than read.
Cool, but why do guests get to edit, when Misfits and Pending Approval don't? They could easily log out or delete their cookies to become a guest.
What's the practical use of Tech Members being able to Rollback when Oldbies can't? I suppose it's because they're a smaller group =P
When I registered to the site, it made a page for me that it said I couldn't edit. So do I have to make some kind of accomplishment(game upload, hack...) or does someone else edit it and not me? Just asking...
This makes me wonder why Pending Membership have Edit rights, but not Pending Approval. It doesn't make sense...
Because Pending Approval is often used as a "silent ban", where as Pending Membership people haven't gone through the trial process, so there's no way of knowing whether they're "worthy" or not, until they screw up or prove their worth.
Uh. Pending Member is anybody -- in some cases, completely unknown, 0 post accounts that haven't even requested validation. Pending Approval is users that could at least pass vaoidation. Now I'm all for Trial Users getting edit permissions, just not in any of the between phases -- allowing Pending Member to edit is like letting any nobody with an email address edit.
There is something wrong going on right now. According to the table above, Pending Members shouldn't be able to upload and reupload pics, yet they've been doing so recently. Which led to some faggots forcing me to a revert war on download.png, and now it was happening again with the stuffcon pics. Please rectify the permissions as per the table above, at least in regards to the upload/reupload permissions. But I wouldn't mind to see ALL editing permissions stripped from Pending Members to be honest. And even Xkeeper thinks that if I'm not misreading his post above. I will do something I don't do often now, writing in all caps: STOP BEING SO KIND WITH NEWBIES ALREADY. If you are administrators and moderators you should, you know, administrate and moderate. Do that.
And I will do something I don't do often now—tell you to fuck off. Do not tell us how to do our job—we are the staff, not you, and I'll be god damned if you're going to tell us that our policies are inadequate or that we're not doing things properly. We're going just fine, and I'm absolutely shocked that you'd come in here with such arrogance and tell us we aren't. Fuck you. Anyway, I'm just going to lock this.
...and I'm re-opening it. Have your shitfit with Nineko all you want, but if nothing else, Pending Members are able to upload shit and that is no good. I'm looking into it but I doubt I'll get anywhere in this tangled mess of IPB and MediaWiki (ugh)
Well, the thing is that what happened wasn't exactly uploading, per se, but the reversion of image files. I would think that rollback being blocked would prevent that, but I guess we'll have to look into blocking those as well. Argh.
I'm a little bit confused about something, I'm not trying to argue this or anything, but why can oldies do some things normal members can't? Isn't being an oldie only if you can offer solid evidence you've been a Sonic fan since before 2003?
Because they're higher than members and can be trusted with powers that can be abused by normal members? Most users don't use these features, but it does help when no one else is around.
That's what I was asking: What makes someone who can prove they were a Sonic fan since before 2003 any more trustworthy than someone who hasn't, or can't prove they were?
I'm not sure you have to prove you're a Sonic fan. I think they mean you have to prove you have been in the Sonic scene since 2003. Like being a member of Retro for 5-7 years (maybe).
