That's what I wanted to touch on. I think people are judging the more recent stuff based on the Adventures/Heroes/Unleashed/06 format. Yes those games were larger scale games with multiple characters and whatnot. Really though the original Genesis games were not like that either (I know 3K was meant to be 1 big thing). Of course the technology was a factor but they were actually more straightforward. I think they've just gone back to a more simplified format. Personally the only problem I have with more recent games are the length. Forces being noticeably shorter than normal. I think Lost World did a good job with that. Seemed to have a nice assortment and balance. I don't think the Avatars were "stuffing" the game though. They fit alright. Even Sonic Mania is not a "large scale" game. The main game is very much in line with the Genesis era. Which is a good thing. It just it does not bother people here because it's a throwback game and I guess it can get away with it being 2D. Will they take 3D Sonic back to those big scale...look at all the stuff we included...days? Maybe. Its ok if some prefer that but saying they've downgraded it into a kids series is wrong imo.