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Discussion in 'General Sonic Discussion' started by Londinium, Jun 17, 2022.

  1. Technically Inept

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    As convincing as that sounds at first glance, movies are more of an investment than videogames, particularly videogames like those.

    I don’t think taking a chance and focusing on getting people to care about stuff they don’t know anything about is high on the priority list here. Actually, I am 96% sure it is not based on what we have already seen from these child superhero movies with a Sonic skin.
     
  2. Zephyr

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    What do you mean? They have 2 successful films under their belt, possibly soon to be 3. Kids and families know about this film series. When they see "new entry in film series you know and love", they will care. It doesn't matter if it features a character who was introduced in a trash game nearly 20 years ago that only enfranchised nerds even care about remembering at this point. And it's always possible that audiences eventually stop caring about this film series, but when that happens I doubt it's going to specifically be because they introduced a character that some people on a message board personally really hate.

    This is extremely uncomplicated. Yes, 06 sucks and Silver is a nothing character. Interestingly, many people here think the same about SA2 and Shadow, and many people elsewhere think the same about the Sonic series in general and Sonic in particular. This is not an effective deterrent! I also think these movies in general really fucking suck, but that's also not a deterrent for the moviegoing public.
     
  3. Chimpo

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    Friendly reminder that one of the most critically and commercially successful film franchises started with a bunch of reject characters no other movie studio wanted.

    One good mass appeal adaption is all it takes to reignite a character in pop culture. Miles Morales is at his peak right now after bumbling around for a decade, and that's thanks to the Spider-Verse films that are loose as fuck with his comic book version. You're all over complicating this.
     
  4. I think y'all missed what I was getting out.

    I didn't say Silver couldn't get popular, I said that he has far more barriers to becoming popular compared to Shadow.

    Contrary to popular belief, Shadow has always been an extremely marketable and popular character despite some misgivings. There was little to no risk to putting him on the big screen. Despite his backstory, that only matters to fans, he is an incredibly easy character to understand as an evil counterpart to the main character.

    Silver has no claim to fame in this franchise for the last 20 years with only one game of content centered around him. That's why pushing him carries a much bigger risk than Shadow, who was kind of a no brainer to center the marketing of these films around.

    Silver would need a massive overhaul as a character to have the same drawing power that Shadow and Team Sonic have.
     
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  5. Chimpo

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    I didn't even read your post. I don't think the claim you're making matters in the grand scheme of things anyways.
     
  6. Zephyr

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    I don't think "Kyle Reese, but make it Sonic" is a terribly difficult character to understand either.
     
  7. Compared to the incredibly broad concept of "evil counterpart of hero" yes, it is. Especially when Terminator hasn't been relevant in the public zeitgeist since the 2000s.
     
  8. Deep Dive Devin

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    Silver being "easy to understand" has nothing to do with any of this. Whether he gets in hinges entirely on whether SEGA thinks he's cool enough.

    He's not cool enough, to be clear. But SEGA might think he is.
     
  9. Zephyr

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    Terminator's relevance doesn't matter. "The future sucks, I want to travel back in time to change it" is extremely easy to understand. How dumb do we think kids are?
     
  10. Time travel stories are, by their very nature, complicated.
     
  11. Zephyr

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    This does not make them unpopular or difficult to market. Besides, I thought we were talking about the ease of understanding a character who wants to change the past, not the mess that gets caused by them trying to do it. That's for Timmy and his pals to argue about on the playground the next day.

    You guys don't have to like Silver, but all of these supposed barriers to marketing him or successfully having him in a movie come across as desperate pretzel logic (oftentimes fairly transparently motivated by said dislike).
     
  12. I don't even dislike Silver, but there's a reason he never took off in the same way that Shadow did, and you can't just chalk that up to the fact that 06 was a bad game either.

    I'm not even saying that they shouldn't or couldn't push Silver more, I'm just questioning how much staying power he actually has compared to the others.

    They could push him to the moon in the next live action movie and if it flops, then what?
     
  13. Azookara

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    There are no barriers. They can and will do whatever they want, no matter if it seems illogical or like a bad idea.

    If there's anything I know Sega and Sonic Team for, it's that.
     
  14. Chimpo

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    Paramount got all all the ingredients they need to make him a hit with new kids without having to touch anything else. It's not like the movies are 1:1 adaptions to anything represented in the games to begin with anyways.

    Opening scene to Sonic 8 is gonna be this with baby Silver and it's gonna be lit
     
  15. I'm not saying they SHOULDN'T do it, I'm just saying that there are reasons it didn't work the first time despite the circumstances.


    But what the fuck do I know.
     
  16. Wraith

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    Also, speaking as someone who is a special education teacher, Silver still gets thrown on a lot of merch. Just saying...

    I think you guys are giving the series too much credit. It's a toy line for boys. All it usually takes to sell a new character is for them be another young boy that has a different personality and Cool Power from the other boys.
     
  17. Crimson Neo

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    Silver is not popular as Sonic and Shadow, but he still has a sorta of popularity. Some kids knows the character exists and they don't he's from Sonic 2006 (and they don't care, they just like him).
     
  18. Okay yes, realistically Silver would easily pop off if he got a movie appearance (just look at what the MCU did for Iron Man), but also I'd rather we get literally anyone else.

    Anyways on the topic of Silver, about the Sonic 06 remake stuff going around? No. Just. No. Let's focus on new games and new good ideas, please. I'll still take that rumored Sonic Heroes remake though, the team stuff deserves to be revisited in some way since I think it was a solid idea for making a massive playable cast work.
     
  19. Chimpo

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    Sonic Heroes Remake, with a new campaign starring Silver, Blaze and Vector pulling double duty!
     
  20. Honestly that could work as a new story taking place after Heroes' main story, make up some bullshit why Silver and Blaze are around and why Vector of all people is helping.