Theory on the Hidden Palace

Tobke · Aug 17, 2003

About the Emerald tube...
Everyone knows that when you go in the tube (with debug mode) , you fall
to death. And I find this strange , this is like a big piece of the level missing here.
Perhaps that there was to be an invisible "level bumper" that brings you to
something like the Seven Chaos emeralds and the Master emerald room in
Sonic 3...
Just a theory...
And too , excuse me for my poor english

Rob Jinnai · Aug 17, 2003

... more likely it's just a big hunk-o missing level. ;p

I'm just saying... nothing about Sonic 2 even remotely suggests all this crazy stuff. Super Sonic was probably just an isolated idea. "The emeralds are supposed to give you some type of great power... wouldn't it be cool if Sonic could use that somehow?"

Personally, I'd bet anything that's exactly where the "story" ends. None of this great emerald shrine business... it just wasn't time for any of that yet! Sonic 3 was the one that decided to take on making things more story-ish.

Trigahd · Aug 17, 2003

Who knows. Maybe they were planning the whole emerald thing from Sonic 3 from the start but didn't have enough time, or thought it had enough space. Sonic 2 could have probably had a storyline to but was cut for space or something. But then again, a storyline for Sonic 2 wouldn't make much sense would it???

Quexinos · Aug 17, 2003

Beyond the Chaos Emeralds said:

ne one else like my theory?
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No, your theory is stupid and not to mention completely moot. As much as I hate to say it, you people need to listen to what Rob is saying.

He's talking about an interview that was conducted between... someone(Area51 or this place) and the guy who did the level designing for Hidden Palace where he was asked about 10 times "WOT'S TEH BIG EMRULD 4??? IS TI 4 SUPERSONIK??"

And he constantly said NO NO NO it was just there to break and he was asked, "DDI TALSE GRAUD TEH MADSTER EMRULAD IN SONIC 2???????!!!!!" and he told us to get a life (I remember him actuallying saying that) and that once again, the emerald was just a block to the tube.

And to the question "why is there another path to take then?" well there are always TONs of paths to take in Sonic games. One thing fan games always seem to forget... but anyway

I know you guys like to come up with theories but WHY ARE YOU CONSTANTLY THEORIZING ABOUT SOMETHING WE HAVE AN ANSWER TO? that's like me saying, "I think in Sonic 3 Sonic and Tails had a huge fight and killed each other" when we know they don't and that it's not true.

So get over it; the Emerald was a block to break just like in CPZ or HTZ, that's it. It wasn't coded yet, the level isn't done and it never will be! Go home... shoo SHOOO!... okay sorry Im done :unsure:

Simon · Aug 17, 2003

lol... Sonique hit the nail right on the head.

In the HPZ section of the site right here, it also says "After years of investigation, it's now believed that it is nothing more than a breakable object for Sonic to go through."

I have a link to ICEknight's interviews with SonicTeam staff but apparantly people didn't bother to read it...

Quexinos · Aug 17, 2003

I guess I can't edit my post O_o;

But uh, I found the interview and here it is:

> Was he (Tails) going to be the guardian of the Master Emerald
> in the Hidden Palace?

I have no idea what the Master Emerald is. If you are refering to the large emerald in the screen shots, that was simply a 'block' that you had to break inorder to gain access to the tubes beneath.
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and

> At the middle of the stage, there's a place where a
> bridge seems to be missing and when you fall through
> the hole and go to the right, you find the Master
> Emerald, blocking a tube.
> Was Robotnik supposed to make an appeareance there?
> What did he do?
> What was the Master Emerald for? Was there any way to
> break it? Where did the tube lead to? Or maybe the
> purpose of the tube was very different?
> Had the Master Emerald something to do with the other
> Chaos Emeralds and with transforming Sonic into
> SuperSonic?
> Was the idea of the Master Emerald yours? Was it
> going to be in the Hidden Palace since the zone was
> designed?

Im sorry to burst the Master Emerald bubble, but it was just a plug to stop up the tube. Sonic broke it the same way he broke anything open in the game. (That is unless my mind really has slipped away in the last 9 years, which if that's the case, and it could be, then the Master Emerald could in fact have held the meaning of the universe and I 've just forgotten)
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and my favorite:

The most strange thing about them is that Sonic was
> very off-centered in the screen, the counters weren't
> in italics and were a little moved. Also, the ring
> counter said '08', but in any Sonic game it should
> read just '8'. That made some of us think that it was
> only a screen made by a SEGA artist to show how the
> stages would look like when they were finished. Do you
> know if those screenshots were real? The place with
> the triceratops also looked a little different to the
> Hidden Palace we could see later.
> The background in that 'Alpha' screenshot of Hidden
> Palace seems to be hand made, and it looks more
> similar to the background of the Sonic 3 Hidden
> Palace.

You guys really need to get lives. You are correct, as I said most of these screen shots are faked up. Usually this is not a problem, except in cases like this where the levels get cut at the last minute.
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so there ya go, the whole interview is here:

http://www.sonicdatabase.tk/

somewhere

EDIT: Simon, I made this post right when you were making yours so sorry if there's overlap

Simon · Aug 17, 2003

Sonique Hedgehog said:

EDIT: Simon, I made this post right when you were making yours so sorry if there's overlap
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It's ok Nice post.

I'll stick Craig Stitt's quote directly in the HPZ section of the site, since people are too lazy to visit other sources This Master Emerald fetish should be put to an end once and for all.

btw the edit time has been extended to 24 hours for everyone.

BtCE · Aug 17, 2003

Alright I was wrong. I read the interview, and his claims seemed extremely valid. So, it was probobly just a breakable block. I never thought the "emerald" lead to a super sonic shrine, just an alternate level, and then an alternate ending. that's pretty much what I thought until I read the interview. Thanks.

SupperTails66 · Aug 17, 2003

Yeah, well, a while back you were busy agreeing with Trigahd about that theory that it DID lead to a shrine.

Rob Jinnai · Aug 17, 2003

As much as I hate to say it, you people need to listen to what Rob is saying.
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Don't hate me if I don't hate you.

Anyway, kids, let us not bother BtCE any further; he was debunked with evidence, don't rub it in.

BtCE · Aug 18, 2003

Thank You, Rob Jinnai. By The way, can you close boards? Its sort of pointless to keep this board open, sinse my theory was WRONG *sniff*. Or Delete the board or somthing. Thanks.

Rob Jinnai · Aug 18, 2003

Well, first of all, the term is typically "thread". You want to lock the thread. And yeah, it is normally possible to do, but only by administrators (Simon) or moderators of a forum.

Simon · Aug 18, 2003

Locking topics isn't really my cup of coffee, but I'll honor your request and lock it.

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