The Younger Generation

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  1. Matwek

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    There has been a lot of talk on this board recently about 'Classic Sonic' what with the announcement of a new Sonic game. With that inevitably comes the backlash of people complaining about the new games, and how the kids of today clearly don't know what they're talking about.

    What I'm interested in is how many people on this board have regular interactions with the new Sonic generation (5 - 10?) and therefore actually have justification for their opinions on the matter. Whether its brother, sister, cousin, nephew, niece, etc… And what do you notice about their interaction with the icon that is Sonic, either through games or TV?

    NOTE: THIS IS NOT A TOPIC DISCUSSING THE PROs AND CONs OF CERTAIN GAMES

    I'll get things started. I have 2 cousins around the age of 6-7ish and both clearly like Sonic.
    Both got into Sonic through Unleashed and Rush, and due to visiting their older cousin (Me) they are also well aware of the classic 2D games.
    The first out of the 2 will always ask me if he can be a different character, he doesn't care if its shadow in one of the newer games or knuckles in the older ones, he just wants some variety.
    The second will prefer to play the 2D games. When I asked why? His response was simply that “they're easier” not that they're better, that includes the newer DS ones as well (which would lead me onto a whole new topic if I had the time, Kids these days may have easier games but its far more difficult for them navigation a 3D environment with 10 or so moves to learn. All we had to learn was left, right and jump).

    I do have plenty more observations, just wanted to get the ball rolling.
     
  2. DigitalDuck

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    My 6-year-old nephew (I think he's six...) prefers the classic 2D games to the modern games for pretty much precisely the same reasons you've said. It's a lot easier to pick up, and I think the fact that Classic Sonic looks much more cartoony appeals to him more too.
     
  3. The KKM

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    My niece and her friends. As said on the other topic, she doesn't even recognize old Sonic. Or better saying, doesn't understand the difference- it's a blue hedgehog that runs fast. She liked to watch Sonic Underground when it reran here,
     
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    My 10-year-old nephew is not a Sonic fan, and has never owned a Sonic game. However, he has played the classic games on his visits to our house. The most striking thing about it is, he simply cannot control a 2D game. This is a child who has completed all the <I>Halo</I>s and <I>Grand Theft Auto</I>s he owns, something I could never do.

    The simplistic left, right and jump controls, and especially the momentum aspect, were completely impossible for him. However, total 360° movement in a 3D environment with weapon-cycling and 20 buttons being pressed at the same time are extremely easy. Surely <I>Sonic 2</I> would have been a breeze, but alas, it seems the gaming skills we learnt as children have not been passed down to the next generation.

    Although he doesn't <I>hate</I> Sonic, some of the off-putting things about it for him are the graphics and music. He has been brought up with dull colour-palettes and cinematic/hardcore metal soundtracks, so the vivid 2D sprites and synthy, upbeat music do not hold his interest for long.

    On a side note, he absolutely <I>loves</I> Altered Beast and Streets of Rage!
     
  5. Iceguy

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    My three years old baby sister loves Sonic. Modern or classic, she doesn't care. It's Sonic.
    Her favourite characters are Knuckles, Shadow and the Chaotix. :v:
    And she also heaps likes Bonk and Mario.
     
  6. Aquaslash

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    My youngest nephews are 12 and 14 so maybe they don't count, but they've known Sonic since they've been little kids. Not only do they like both modern and classic Sonic equally, they're not exactly keen to the whole bit that all the storylines are separate. Specifically they keep asking me why western characters aren't in the games, and my answer boils down to "sega is teh ghey"

    There's also my 2 year old niece who can recognize Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Eggman, and Shadow. She'll always ask about playing any game I have that features Sonic, even though she can't wrap her haed around actually controlling it.
     
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    I showed my seven years old cousin Sonic 1, and she totally loved it.
    She only knew Sonic from Mario & Sonic at the olympics games. She said it was pretty difficult, though...
     
  8. The KKM

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    Oh, by the way, my niece classifies characters in relation to their resemblance to Sonic. Tails is "that fox" Knuckles is "that red guy", Sonic is Sonic, Shadow is "Black Sonic", Silver is "That strange White Sonic with a starfish on his head" and Eggman is "the badguy from Sonic"
     
  9. Iceguy

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    <!--quoteo(post=401839:date=Jan 28 2010, 06:08 PM:name=Koi Kami Mauro)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Koi Kami Mauro @ Jan 28 2010, 06:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=401839"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Oh, by the way, my niece classifies characters in relation to their resemblance to Sonic. Tails is "that fox" Knuckles is "that red guy", Sonic is Sonic, Shadow is "Black Sonic", Silver is "That strange White Sonic with a starfish on his head" and Eggman is "the badguy from Sonic"<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's just plain cute and funny. .w.
     
  10. Matwek

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    I tend to find they're more interested in the actual characters rather than the games themselves.
     
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    My nine year old cousin got a Wii this Christmas, and my ma wanted to get her a cheap game. I suggested Sonic and the Secret Rings. We got it for her, and she seemed to really enjoy it, amazed at how fast Sonic went. Some parts seemed a bit hard for her though.
     
  12. Matwek

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    I find it hard to stay angry at some of the shitter games in the series when they can still get kids excited to the extent that I was when their age.
     
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    My parents friends sometimes have grandchildren 5-10 and sometimes they end up visiting us, children included. Suddenly I have little kid to take care of (it's always me, never the adults) and therefore I put them playing Sonic Jam. Some know Sonic from now (one of them was even telling me he loved Unleashed and even started getting all tearfull when I mentioned Chip) but close to all of them end up with their faces stuck on the screen (any of the classic games( and cry when they have to go. Eventually, they buy one of the many collections of Sonic in it.

    The only ones which I haven't been able to convert is a Wii fanboy (a nine year old Wii fanboy no less) which told me Sonic was gay and chidlish and then proceeded to play Mario Galaxy in that level with the bee costume. Well he's an idiot, so... There was another one who tries hard to be seen as an adult (ten, son of divorced parents) who only likes to play +18 games.
     
  14. phoenixwright7

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    <!--quoteo(post=401868:date=Jan 28 2010, 01:35 PM:name=0r4ng3)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (0r4ng3 @ Jan 28 2010, 01:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=401868"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The only ones which I haven't been able to convert is a Wii fanboy (a nine year old Wii fanboy no less) which told me Sonic was gay and chidlish and then proceeded to play Mario Galaxy in that level with the bee costume.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'm not sure if I should be happy that he's a Nintendo fanboy (so many bash Nintendo these days... Refreshing to see someone who doesn't even if he's only 9 :) ) or sad that he's continuing a war that's already been won... Tell him that he's a couple of gens late.

    Anyways, I used to spend quite a bit of time on sonic fan sites (you know the kind <_< ) back in the day, but I'm not sure if that really counts... I'm sure there was a young kid on there at some point... The biggest thing I can remember from the types of fans that appeared on said sites was that most of them were obsessed with Shadow -_-
     
  15. Sonic Warrior TJ

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    You know, I love kids that are into Sonic. My mom's best friend's daughter plays Sonic Rush with a friend of hers, and one time caught me at Starbucks while I was working on Gemini stuff. This girl's maybe 8 or 9, but she wanted to know all about it, it was cute. And my brother's 7 years younger than I am, and while he was born just before Sonic 3's release, he grew up watching me play the classics throughout the later 90s. I remember when mom was planning on getting us a Gamecube and SA2:B, and my brother pitched a fit because he wanted a Dreamcast instead to play both Sonic Adventure games (this was literally a month or so before SADX was announced).

    Unfortunately my brother grew into his teens playing Halo and Rock Band, and while he still tries to talk Sonic with me here and there, he falls flat because he hasn't played a Sonic game since Heroes (which ultimately ended up being his favorite of the series *facepalm*).
     
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    I write 3-4 things for TSS and it's about half and half when it comes down to commenters going either new-school or old-school. That's about the only time I deal with the kids (I don't know any kids IRL who play Sonic). The new-school ranting and raving is just so annoying because the games are not good. There is one guy on there who we had to ban for being so outrageous and incorrect. I then started <a href="http://sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic-show-marcus-minute-episode-1" target="_blank">a video series</a> based around his antics.

    But Matwek has something that made me think for a bit...
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I find it hard to stay angry at some of the shitter games in the series when they can still get kids excited to the extent that I was when their age.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You're so right on this, but then again... when we were younger, the games were liked by nearly everybody (unless you owned a Super Nintendo, haha). I just don't understand standing by garbage, nah'm sayin'?
     
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    <!--quoteo(post=401934:date=Jan 28 2010, 08:35 PM:name=phoenixwright7)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phoenixwright7 @ Jan 28 2010, 08:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=401934"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=401868:date=Jan 28 2010, 01:35 PM:name=0r4ng3)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (0r4ng3 @ Jan 28 2010, 01:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=401868"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The only ones which I haven't been able to convert is a Wii fanboy (a nine year old Wii fanboy no less) which told me Sonic was gay and chidlish and then proceeded to play Mario Galaxy in that level with the bee costume.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'm not sure if I should be happy that he's a Nintendo fanboy (so many bash Nintendo these days... Refreshing to see someone who doesn't even if he's only 9 :) ) or sad that he's continuing a war that's already been won... Tell him that he's a couple of gens late.

    Anyways, I used to spend quite a bit of time on sonic fan sites (you know the kind <_< ) back in the day, but I'm not sure if that really counts... I'm sure there was a young kid on there at some point... The biggest thing I can remember from the types of fans that appeared on said sites was that most of them were obsessed with Shadow -_-
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    Well, he sure fits the Nintendo fanboy sterotype. He claimed Sonic games sucked but when I asked which one he had played he said <I>none</I>. His sister likes Sonic though and since she's older (twelve) bullies the Wii to play Secret Rings. I'm sure it's because of that he hates Sonic so much. :P One of these days I'll make him play a Sonic game.

    <!--quoteo(post=401960:date=Jan 28 2010, 09:28 PM:name=Slingerland)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Slingerland @ Jan 28 2010, 09:28 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=401960"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I find it hard to stay angry at some of the shitter games in the series when they can still get kids excited to the extent that I was when their age.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You're so right on this, but then again... when we were younger, the games were liked by nearly everybody (unless you owned a Super Nintendo, haha). I just don't understand standing by garbage, nah'm sayin'?
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    Here's the same. It's just amusing a couple of kids that played Unleashed here screaming both woooohhh with Sonic and howling with the werehog.

    Reminds me of one of those shamefull secrets from our Sonic childhood. I liked Sonic 3D and still play it often. What a shitty game compared to the majority, even including 06.
     
  18. Wow. My 5 year old cousin loves Mario Galaxy (to the point of completion practically), and I think he likes Sonic. I do distinctly remember him talking about it after we played one of them, but I can't remember which game it was. Actually, might have been Brawl or Olympics. I should get him to play a classic and see how he does, could be interesting...
     
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    <!--quoteo(post=401969:date=Jan 28 2010, 04:40 PM:name=0r4ng3)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (0r4ng3 @ Jan 28 2010, 04:40 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=401969"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Here's the same. It's just amusing a couple of kids that played Unleashed here screaming both woooohhh with Sonic and howling with the werehog.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ha! My niece does that when she's watching someone play the daytime stages in unleashed.
     
  20. Dr. Mustache

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    My aunt's a teacher, apparently there a large number of her class are into Sonic and they all draw pictures of him and talk about him and stuff. She was quite astonished because when I was her age I was just like them.
     
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