The Sonic the Hedgehog Headcanon Thread of Lore and Time Stones

While we're connecting locations, I've long suspected that Holy Summit is either in Mystic Ruins or next to it due to several factors and similarities:

• It has echidna ruins
• It has what appears to be an emerald altar (which is even called an altar in-game)
  
• Knuckles is residing there during the events of Battle, likely investigating the echidna ruins
• It has similar Mayan-esque music
• It has a giant crater. Perhaps the spot where Angel Island was originally?
• Chaos shows up there during Emerl's story
• It's a mountainous area
  
• Knuckles mentions the place has an estuary, which means it's next to the sea like Mystic Ruins

 

Were we supposed to agree?

 

The Megazord got buried inside the lava from the planet's core.

I choose to believe that this confirms that Light Gaia usually doesn't need it. Light Gaia is a fucking giant Chip.

He used the Megazord this time because somehow he knew that he would need it. He left it prepared thousands of years ago because he foresaw this time things would be messy. Now everything went back to normal and he buried the Megazord down, to be kaiju Chip millions of years from now.

 

Maybe this was brought up before in the thread, but is it confirmed that Station Square is the name of the city itself? I always thought it was an odd thing that Sonic X did, to just reference the city itself as "Station Square", like clearly the name "Station Square" is supposed to reference a place *in* a larger city, as in "the square in which the train station is located", or maybe even the name of a neighborhood in the city that got its name because of the train station. My headcanon is that Station Square is the name of a city neighborhood, and the city itself is Central City, with the city in Sonic Adventure 2 being Westopolis.

 

That's how I interpreted it. They even say in-game that it has Satellite Cities surrounding it. I don't think the actual Capital City is called Central City per say though. I imagine that's the the center burrough, with Westopolis being the west burrough. I don't think the Capital is Empire City either, that's clearly it's own thing.

 

So, what country does Empire City belong to? Or is it just its own thing?

 

Isn't it the United Federation?

Do we know any other countries at all?
I'm assuming Shamar, Spagonia, Chun-nan, etc., are not countries either, but cities.

 

The businessman NPC describes Station Square as a hub connecting many satellite cities.

However, the game presents it as a massive city in the CGI scenes, Speed Highway, and Perfect Chaos—unless those visuals depict the surrounding cities instead. Satellite cities are typically smaller, so Station Square might function more like Philadelphia in the Delaware Valley, serving as a major city linked to smaller ones.

This could explain why Sonic X portrayed it the way it did.

(Though in Sonic X, the White House and the capital seem close to Station Square, even though they mistakenly placed it in Arizona.)

 

I'm pretty sure it was always the name of the city. Eggman states that he plans to destroy Station Square and build Eggmanland on its ruins. I doubt he was talking about just a few blocks.

Tails also says that the giant missile Eggy launched will destroy Station Square. Again, I doubt such a huge explosion would be limited to a town square.

And wasn't there dialogue at the train in Mystic Ruins that it will depart for Station Square? In such a case it would be referencing the name of the destination city, not just a town square.

I'd think most of them are countries, given their flags and the fact their names tend to come from real life countries like China or Spain.

Empire City would be a city though. It's on its name, and it's based on NY.

 

No reason to assume both can't be true here. Station Square is a borough of Central City that serves as a hub for other cities/boroughs. Both Station Square and Central City seem to be along a coast that runs along the former's southern border to the latter's eastern border based on the SA2 map. This would also mean that the Mystic Ruins would have to be to the west of there also along the coast based on which way the train goes when it leaves the station. Westopolis would logically be to the west of all of that with a train line leading that way, and maybe there's a city to the north like Empire City? That would effectively make Central City "central" while maintaining Station Square as a hub with satellite cities surrounding it.

I do need to make a correction here, it does seem like Central City is indeed the capital based on dialogue from both SA2 and ShTH05. Blackhole beat me to it lol.

There was a post by Sonic Loreposting on Twitter that talked about all of this years ago. I'll see if I can find it.

 

I'm not sure how accurate that CGI cutscene is in terms of geography, but then again, all the various maps in the games contradict each other. The capital seems to be along a coast, apparently a southern coast as the Dark Story trailer says that Prison Island is located in "to the south" which is apparently east of a coast in the game map. It seems then that the map is either wholly inaccurate or the map is turned 90 degrees counterclockwise. I'd argue the latter since South Island is near it on the map, wandering around the south seas as stated in the Genesis manual.

 

You know, it only now occurs to me that Prison Island takes cues from Alcatraz (which is probably obvious but whatever). I always thought Prison Island was further out from Central City considering the apparent blast radius of the explosion that destroyed it and how Sonic X portrayed it. Given that it survived it in ShTH05, perhaps that CGI explosion was exaggerated. Certainly gives some more context to that helicopter as you mentioned and how Shadow got to the central reserve bank so quickly.

 

Since Sonic 4 and its weird narrative was a hot topic so recently, anyone else ever think about that cutscene where Metal Sonic finds a weird purple sphere in Lost Labyrinth Zone, it seemingly powers him up in some way and then it's never brought up again?

(1:40)


It probably would've been elaborated on in E3, but since we're never getting that game, I'm just gonna assume that this is what gave him the intelligence and autonomy he possesses in Sonic Heroes. It's the next game where he appears chronologically, and also the first one where he shows signs of being anything more than a mindless machine.

Hell, maybe he was inside that glass chamber in SA1 because Eggman was working on upgrading him to fully utilize these LLB (Lost Labyrinth Ball, it's not like Sega ever bothered to give it a real name) powers, resulting in him becoming Neo Metal Sonic.

 

That's my headcanon too.

 

I have 2, mainly concerning the classic games: The boss fights with Robotnik are in slow motion relative to the player, he is trying to fight fire with fire making machines that can go at the speed of sound. A dinky car with a drill moving slowly is a pushover, but when it’s moving 1000 miles an hour…

And in Sonic Unleashed, almost every region of the world is represented, but not Oceania. So what if Oceania is the setting of the classic games? That would explain why there are so many islands. South Island is… South Island, New Zealand. NZ is like the opposite of Australia, full of small, defenseless animals, mostly birds, perfect for mustached scientists to fit into robots. Also New Zealand has a large population of hedgehogs, though they are an invasive species. Westside Island is part of Sonic’s version of Australia, there are lots of invasive foxes there. And Angel Island is New Guinea, because it’s very large, tropical, and home to an echidna (Echidnas are endangered in New Guinea, but not in Australia, so this jibes with him being the last of his kind)