I think there just isn't much left to be said. We all know what the game looks like from start to finish (well most of us do anyways), we all know how we feel about th game (I.e. jim hates it, I love it, etc), we all know the physics and the graphics and what not. I think we're just out of stuff to talk about until we can play it ourselves. Anything else seems to degrade into "YOUR OPINION IS SHIT," "NO, YOUR OPINION IS SHIT!" sort of flame wars. Of course, if someone can say something thought provoking, I'd love to converse about it. I'm just personally out of ideas.