The Eggfan Vault

Pretty sure that Vice is indeed the best.

That transistor level simulator those guys at visual6502 are doing is possibly better though - dunno if they got to the sid/vic chips yet, though (and it's a hundred times slower than real time).

 

Politely demanding more pix of that thing, inside and outside.

 

That cap obscures the pcb number, but I'm pretty sure it's 171-6570a, right?

Thanks for the pictures!

 

For the record, we're moving away from CBR manuals to PDF ones - don't know if that makes things easier/more tedious for you (it certianly makes manuals more accessible for the masses)

 

Loretta sounds more like they originally made it as a SG-1000 game and had carts manufactured, but jumped it over to the Mark III by the time it was finished because that was out for a full year by then (but kept The Black Onyx back for some reason...). Sega lists it as a Master System game, so I'm not sure if we should list it as a Master System game and point out the oddity like we already do with Phantasy Star Kanzenban.

 

Seeing as the box lists it as an SG-1000 game... I also vote SG-1000 (it's no different from what we've done with The Castle)

quite a few sites seem to mis-label this one. I guess it's the packaging (although interestingly, all the card based SG-1000 games from 1986 specifically mention the Mark III too)

 

The difference is that The Castle has a SG-1000 code (G-10XX), whereas Loretta has a Mark III code (G-13XX). Also Loretta is a 1Mb Gold Cartridge. So whilst technically a SG-1000 game, it was packaged more as a Mark III game.

This is the same issue with categorizing Korean SG-1000 releases which were packaged as SMS titles (SG-1000 wasn't released there). For those we list them as SMS games.

 

The case in South Korea is a bit easier though - as you said, there's no SG-1000 consoles, so even though some of them aren't strictly Master System games, they were manufactured and marketed as such.

With Loretta no Shouzou, we have a game which is marketed as both, and as Japan received both consoles, so unlike South Korea it makes more sense to call it an SG-1000 release (thankfully I think it's the only one of its type). It looks to me as if they were toying around with packaging designs around this period - there are Mark III elements to the box, but also SG-1000 ones - it stands out a bit regardless of where you put it, and clearly Sega themselves were a bit confused when they were building their online archive


we could always find a way to put it in both sets of categories....

 

as a follow up to this

In Japan, no Master System games were released on cartridge during 1985 and the first half of 1986 - they was all on card. That means the G-13XX codes didn't come into effect until the Master System release of Fantasy Zone (1986-06-15).

Only two cartridge-based SG-1000 games were released in 1986 and 1987 - The Castle (which we don't have a specific date for, my guess is before Fantasy Zone) and of course, Loretta no Shouzou (1987-02-18). Everything else was on card and so used C-XX codes.

My guess is the G-10XX naming scheme was depreciated by the time Loretta no Shouzou was released, hence why it was given a G-13XX code instead. It's an odd way of doing things, but it's the only occasion where both new SG-1000 and new Master System cartridges were being manufactured at the same time. Perhaps this explains it?