That God-damned Barrel Topic

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  1. Ritz

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    <!--quoteo(post=331464:date=Jul 17 2009, 01:21 AM:name=Chimpo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chimpo @ Jul 17 2009, 01:21 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=331464"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I believe a majority of us did. You're nothing special. :colbert:<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You're lying. Stop lying.

    <!--quoteo(post=331464:date=Jul 17 2009, 01:21 AM:name=Chimpo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chimpo @ Jul 17 2009, 01:21 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=331464"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It was, although I can't confirm on which modes.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <a href="http://www.theghz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1979&p=98001#p97995" target="_blank">This guy</a> seems to think it was only removed on Easy, so let's go with that.
     
  2. Revival

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    Got through it after one prior attempt. I was more annoyed by the Mushroom Hill upwards-moving-cork-things, which I figured out a few days after trying it.
     
  3. Shadix

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    <!--quoteo(post=320180:date=Jun 16 2009, 10:14 AM:name=Sik)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sik @ Jun 16 2009, 10:14 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=320180"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-3-3yjE-2c&feature=related" target="_blank">Obligatory YouTube link.</a>

    Seriously, is there any trap worse than that in any game at all? Like, yeah, when you know the solution it turns out to be very easy, but until then you can end up stuck, like, forever. There's still people who are trapped at it by this point :psyduck: This happens because they decided to make something that wasn't based on the normal control scheme =P I think there's only one other drum like that in all the zone, and you are by no means forced to go through it at all... Not to mention that you can go backwards if you find it.

    EDIT: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0D5p-jrdHU&feature=related" target="_blank">this</a> video is waaaaay better =P

    EDIT 2: check 4:27 =P<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Tbh that isn't even the first time the you have trouble with the barrel. By the time your that far into the stage you should've had to have figured out the mechanism already.
     
  4. Sik

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    <!--quoteo(post=331546:date=Jul 17 2009, 01:00 PM:name=Shadix)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shadix @ Jul 17 2009, 01:00 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=331546"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Tbh that isn't even the first time the you have trouble with the barrel. By the time your that far into the stage you should've had to have figured out the mechanism already.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Except that I've so far only found one other barrel of this kind, and it's one that can be easily confused with a dead-end or a Tails-only path (as there are some of those around in the game), so I wouldn't be surprised if most of us had already found it but completely ignored it as its challenge is completely optional.
     
  5. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qO1GJgYIDs&feature=related" target="_blank">Commentary on the barrel, as given by Daxflame, apparently</a>

    I love how many people are all "wahh I couldn't figure it out when I was six, Sega made a bad game! I couldn't get past it for about 12 years and I still have nightmares! ;____________________________________;"

    Well you know how to do it <I>now</I>, so get over it!
     
  6. Sik

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    I'm much more annoyed by those that could get past it quickly and now insist in that everybody else is a retard because the solution was so easy. Now, if it was as easy as they claim, then why so many people got stuck there? :| Easy? Yes, but as obvious? Doubt so.
     
  7. I've refrained from that because I actually don't remember how, when or where I found out how to "beat" the barrel. I just like mocking the people who're whining and crying about how they were stuck for x number of months, fifteen years later =P
     
  8. muteKi

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    Pity it wasn't actually directly mentioned in the manual. It'd have made a decent DOS-style "anti-copy-protection" mechanism.
    (I mean that it would work much like how a lot of DOS adventure games had bits that required using parts of the game manual for information in order to complete the game.)


    Makes a good conversation piece with people who played it but couldn't topple it, though.

    Incidentally I always found MGZ's boss at Tails even harder, since you could do this by well-timed jumping if you tried hard enough. About 85% of the time I'd game over, which is why I almost never played the damn stage, usually going Ice Cap to Mushroom Hill in fun replays at the time.
     
  9. Gunner112k

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    That barrel is fucking legendary! I remember back in elementary school when schoolmates PAID me to come over to their houses and get through that goddamned barrel! I felt like a savior.
     
  10. BlackHole

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    Wow, you were PAID? I was offered about two weeks of not getting bullied by said bullies. They never followed it, though.
     
  11. PsychoHog

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    <!--quoteo(post=331342:date=Jul 16 2009, 07:52 PM:name=Chimpo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chimpo @ Jul 16 2009, 07:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=331342"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=331323:date=Jul 16 2009, 04:12 PM:name=PsychoHog)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PsychoHog @ Jul 16 2009, 04:12 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=331323"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This is pathetic...

    I figured it out in 30 seconds. I can't believe it took someone <I>years</I> to figure it out. It's a <b>BARREL</b>! How does a barrel outsmart you? I almost didn't post here, but I wanted to to get out of Trial Membership and I thought maybe if I prove I'm not a complete idiot, I might have a chance.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    At no point are you instructed about how the barrel functions. Congrats, you figured it out.

    Fuck you for insulting us for getting stumped.
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    Wow. I give a little insult and everyone puts a gun to my head. Okay, I'll just pull my post from the forums so that you'll feel better. Sorry to insult everyone. I just assumed it was well known that you use the D-Pad to activate the barrel. Sorry...
     
  12. Chimpo

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    <!--quoteo(post=332059:date=Jul 18 2009, 02:31 PM:name=PsychoHog)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PsychoHog @ Jul 18 2009, 02:31 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=332059"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I just assumed it was well known that you use the D-Pad to activate the barrel. Sorry...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It's known now, not back when we were 5.
     
  13. PsychoHog

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    <!--quoteo(post=332060:date=Jul 18 2009, 05:33 PM:name=Chimpo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chimpo @ Jul 18 2009, 05:33 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=332060"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=332059:date=Jul 18 2009, 02:31 PM:name=PsychoHog)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PsychoHog @ Jul 18 2009, 02:31 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=332059"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I just assumed it was well known that you use the D-Pad to activate the barrel. Sorry...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It's known now, not back when we were 5.
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    Well, I'm sorry I offended you. Insulting everyone was not my best move to get in. I'm probably screwed now. I might not ever get into the forums now. I probably don't belong. I just kinda expect everyone to know what I know. If I don't get in this forum, can I at least have a link to another one? I don't have anyone to talk to about Sonic except for everyone here.

    But if I do want to let me in, I promise to behave and not insult anyone or break the rules in any way. I just want someone to talk to about Sonic since my friends don't even know who he is.
     
  14. GasparXR

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    Hell, this game came out 7-8 months before I was born. =P (And S&K 5 days after)

    I got bored when I was 10 and printed and read an entire walkthrough for Sonic 3. I'm dead, effing serious. That's how I knew. I practically imagined what the game would look like since I only played Angel Island before that. Yet I still had trouble with it 2 years later because I didn't know that I had to push up as it's going down, and down as it's going up, I thought you just had to push up and down constantly. XD
     
  15. Sik

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    No, you got it the other way, you have to push down while it's going down and up while it's going up. Otherwise you'll be stopping the barrel instead :P
     
  16. muteKi

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    Incidentally, I opened up SSF, and, for the curious, in both the "normal" and "easy" difficulties the game does NOT include that specific barrel obstacle. The other one like that in the act is supplemented with an antigrav platform to make it easier, so you can get through that bit just with well-timed jumping.

    Actually, I think you can do that even in the original mode, since you don't need to get UNDER the barrel, just like with the special ICZ platforms (which also respond to UP/DOWN, of course). Since jumping is vector addition, if you're already heading up quickly, jumping will make you move up even faster.
     
  17. Sik

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    <!--quoteo(post=332343:date=Jul 19 2009, 05:43 PM:name=muteKi)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (muteKi @ Jul 19 2009, 05:43 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=332343"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->just like with the special ICZ platforms (which also respond to UP/DOWN, of course)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Wait, what? They also do? D:
     
  18. trakker

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    I was talking with a pal on MSN the other day and I linked him that Cybershell video, because of the funny satire with the barrel. I wasen't prepared however for his responce of "omg u press up and down?" and he's pretty much the same age as me. He was under the impresion it was a design glitch and you coulden't get past it without bouncing with the water shield. We were both dumbfounded for different reasons at that moment in time XD

    <a href="http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b43/trakkerw/barrel.jpg" target="_blank">http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b43/trakkerw/barrel.jpg</a> convo

    So yeah, latest moment of confusion is 9 days ago
     
  19. GasparXR

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    <!--quoteo(post=332119:date=Jul 18 2009, 09:59 PM:name=Sik)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sik @ Jul 18 2009, 09:59 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=332119"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->No, you got it the other way, you have to push down while it's going down and up while it's going up. Otherwise you'll be stopping the barrel instead :P<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    No. You're way will stop it. Trust me, I was just playing S3K earlier and it's the the other way. =P
     
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