Sonic the Hedgehog IDW Comic Megathread

Overlord · Feb 5, 2018

You'd complain about whoever they introduced that was new, be honest. ;P

Dark Sonic · Feb 5, 2018

ICEknight said:

EDIT: Also... "not enough characters"? The new comic hasn't started its run and there's a new main character already. I think you guys may be underestimating the involved artists and writers.
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Well there are more established characters but it's not like they necessarily hang out with Sonic all the time, really only Tails does. But while like 20 characters is more than 5, they need others to not only fill in the gaps but also to make the comic it's own.

If this comic started off from a Sonic Mega Drive point you know they'd introduce new, non Sega characters eventually.

ICEknight · Feb 6, 2018

Overlord said:

You'd complain about whoever they introduced that was new, be honest. ;P
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Hey, if the new characters don't clash with the rest of the designs, why would I? I don't think I've ever had a problem with the new ones introduced in the OVA or the mangas...

BlackHole · Feb 6, 2018

Has anyone complained about Tangle? We seem to be rather fond of her...

Crappy Blue · Feb 6, 2018

I've only had Tangle for a week and a half, but if anyone complained about her, I'd kill everyone in this room and then myself.

She's perfect.

/dev/sr0 · Feb 6, 2018

BlackHole said:

Has anyone complained about Tangle? We seem to be rather fond of her...
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Mecha Sally · Feb 6, 2018

BlackHole said:

Has anyone complained about Tangle? We seem to be rather fond of her...
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I'm sure people have, but people are just ignoring them or conveniently haven't seen their complaints. :v:

I think she's pretty cute, myself. It does suck not having the SatAM characters, but I can understand why they're not using them. Maybe they could still show up in the future sometime as recurring characters rather than main ones?

Okamikurainya · Feb 7, 2018

Overlord said:

It also has a lot less story and characters. Them doing what they're doing at the moment makes more sense, and that's speaking as someone who thinks Forces failed on basically every level.
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I disagree wholeheartedly. You're thinking in the sense of only using the material provided from the Classic games when in fact they have the entire amalgamated world of the future games they can use to enrich the Classic world. Starting with Forces is just a bad move in my opinion, a story should be told from beginning to end.

Sure this gets the story up to date, but we also lose a lot of really cool adaptions. We never got adaptations for most of the games in Archie, including the huge gaping plot skip of the Adventure 2 arc.

Don't get me wrong, like I said before, this comic is the highlight of my year so far. I'm 90% sure they'll do it properly and I have a lot of faith in Ian Flynn. Still disappointed that we won't get a naturally developing canon that adapts the games chronologically from A to Z.

Dark Sonic · Feb 7, 2018

While there may be gaps a lot of the stories have been told in various ways at this point, whether through the Archie comic or even Sonic the Comic. They might not have been told accurately, but they've been told, sometimes more than once (Sonic 1, 2, and CD were told twice in Archie's run, granted in different alternate history takes but still). Also Sonic's history is a mess. After Sonic & Knuckles it just goes all over the place (and we still aren't quite sure when Sonic CD happened. Hell Ian put Sonic CD after Generations of all things) and with such a long history it would take years to get caught up to modern times, even if you only concentrated on the main series games.

Ian's interpretation of the classic games are fun, but to do it right it would take time and it would recover ground that's already been covered. I'd rather just see new stories at this point with the occasional flash back or nod.

Oddly enough IMO though I think the Archie reboot should have started over from Sonic 1, but not this. I say that because with Archie they had to mix SatAM lore with the older stuff. That meant there was a twist. The story had to be told again because it unfolded differently then it did in the games. How did Sonic 1 mix with the Eggman coup from SatAM? What was Sally up to in Sonic 3? Snively was apparently controlling the Eggrobo that fought Knuckles in Sonic 3K, what was that about? Stuff like that. And the only way we got to find out that stuff was through constant flashbacks because they kept having to explain why the present was the way it was and it was kind of obnoxious because of it. For this one though, besides Tangle, who might just come out of nowhere for all we know, it seems pretty safe to assume that everything happened the way the games interpreted it. Why tell it again?

Also, I just had a thought. Since the IDW comics take place after Sonic Forces, could the Sonic Forces adaption comics almost be considered the equivalent of the Archie Sonic mini series that preceded the actual comic?

Overlord · Feb 7, 2018

You also have to remember the comics are a licensed property and as such the licensee has a lot of sway in things. They will obviously want to promote their current stuff, not go back and start from 25 years ago.

Deep Dive Devin · Feb 7, 2018

Because we all know how eager SEGA is to leave Sonic 1 behind, right?

JaxTH · Feb 8, 2018

Okamikurainya said:

including the huge gaping plot skip of the Adventure 2 arc.
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Well, first of all the team at Archie was given the trial disk for SA2 and told a general outline of the story and then was forced to make an "adoption" in the lead up to issue #100 which meant dropping their current story right then and there. So no, their never would have been a decent adaption either way with the way they forced.

For retrospect, when they were leading into the Sonic Adventure adaption they weren't told how Tikal looked so they made a generic female echidna for that one issue before someone on the team brought a JP Dreamcast and a copy of the game while someone else on the team with limited Japanese knowledge translated on the fly for them. This worked out because if the year gap between the JP and Worldwide releases.

Anyway, 10 years later in they did do a SA2 adaption in the form of a flashback arc before an Eggnan base was raided or something like that. I don't remember which book or issues they were however it if it was pre or post reboot. I think it was pre-reboot however.

BlackHole · Feb 8, 2018

Sonic Universe, Issue 2, pre-252.

makoeyes · Feb 16, 2018

Surprised no one's posted about this before me xD

Apparently two new villains have been revealed for the comic.

Rough and Tumble.

They look okay. It's interesting they're skunks, I guess.

Dolphman · Feb 17, 2018

I'm just glad they look very original and unique, and not the generic Sonic base with features slapped on that plagued most of the post-reboot Archie characters.
Couldn't help but make this after seeing their designs and how they're skunks. XD

Dr. Mecha · Feb 21, 2018

An interview with Ian Flynn reveal that it'll be a whole new take on the Sonic Story.

Crappy Blue Luigi said:

I've only had Tangle for a week and a half, but if anyone complained about her, I'd kill everyone in this room and then myself.

She's perfect.
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The Princess is dead, long live the Lemur.

In all seriousness, I'm glad that they exclude the characters from both SATam and AoSTH so that the comic have its own identity like Sonic X, or the OVAs.

Sir_mihael · Feb 22, 2018

Dr. Mecha said:

An interview with Ian Flynn reveal that it'll be a whole new take on the Sonic Story.

Crappy Blue Luigi said:

I've only had Tangle for a week and a half, but if anyone complained about her, I'd kill everyone in this room and then myself.

She's perfect.
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The Princess is dead, long live the Lemur.

In all seriousness, I'm glad that they exclude the characters from both SATam and AoSTH so that the comic have its own identity like Sonic X, or the OVAs.
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From that interveiw

Ian said:

The first few issues are kind of an unofficial follow-up to Sonic Forces. The one that's freshest in everyone's minds.
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It would be nice to get some more clarification on this. I get the impression he means it's following on from the IDW Comic universe's own version of Forces (aka: Eggman taking over 99% of the world with Infinite as his bro) that may-or-may-not include the previous games and will probably be ignored when the next Game sequel comes out anyway.

Either way I'm interested to see what parts of the game story get picked and used, because it's a big menu now!

KingOfBunnies · Mar 22, 2018

KingOfBunnies said:

I'm super annoyed they don't tell us what the variant cover is going to be for the Sonic comic pack they have on their website. I don't want to buy it for a cover I might not like. I know I'm getting the A,B, and RI (1 in 10) covers from my shop for issue 1, but to not see the cool exclusive cover on Sega's shop is annoying. I know it fits more with the comic topic, but they announced it at the SXSW panel, and I was hoping they were gonna show off the exclusive cover.
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Reposting this from the SXSW thread. But I was wondering if anyone here is actually getting that pack? I do want to see what it looks like and I'll just ebay the variant cover if I have to.

Lanzer · Mar 24, 2018

So from what I'm hearing the first issue is being released early at Wondercon.

Leaks soon?

Endgame · Mar 24, 2018

IDW Sonic Update: Ian Flynn Elaborates On “Two-Worlds Canon”, Talks About Fleetway Content

Q: Can we at least have Humans and “Mobians” on both worlds maybe find some way to infer that they are two closely connected worlds? I really enjoyed the one inclusive world we had post reboot, and I hate to see the idea get ripped apart because of canon

A: There was some “fluff”, we'll say, over confirming that the two-worlds thing from the games will be the canon of the comics. I think folks are paying too much attention to the nitty-gritty because the two-worlds thing has been around since Sonic Adventure; we just didn't know it. It wasn't confirmed until that one Q&A session, what, 5 years ago or so, and everyone was like “What?” That is why Sonic X had two worlds, because it was based off the Sonic canon. Really it hasn't undermined any of the game stories at this point. The story of Tikal and Chaos, really doesn't matter where it is. It is a strong enough story on on its own right. Shadow, and his whole deal, it doesn't matter that it happens in the Human world. His story is fairly stand alone. Ya, it raises some big questions. I'm not denying that. It also isn't the brick through the window kind of distraction, that I think a lot of people think its going to be. So, I mean, obviously Sonic and his friends can cross over between the worlds no problem in the games. If we get around to messing with that at all in the comic, we'll probably gonna follow suit, but again, the book isn't out yet. The first year has been plotted, that's not a lot. Just relax, let the stories come. Even if I have a bullet point list of all the super nerdy things I wanted to cover, there's no way to do that in a single year. So let the comic be. Its not really going to affect year one, probably won't even effect year two. That's how its been, that's how it has been for the past, oh shoot, since ‘ 99, how many years is that? Almost 20 years. It's not a big deal it'll be fine, trust me, I know what I”m doing I've been doing this a bit, trust me. Trust me. …Pre-reboot, post-reboot, IDW, Sonic X, and Sonic Boom continuities, and game continuities considering SEGA exclusive online thing. I've played with 6 different flavors of Sonic; I think I can manage.

Q: I don't suppose there might be any Fleetway's Sonic the Comic hidden in the IDW Sonic run?

A: Maybe? Not initially, because like I said before, we're trying to define the book as the IDW Sonic. It needs to stand on its own two feet before we start going crazy with references to other incarnations of Sonic over the years. That and the last time there was any kind of Fleetway nod in the Archie book it had some really nastly blowback. So might wanna dodge that minefield, but I'm always tempted because Nigel Kitching said I could use Metallix, and I want to but I know its more complicated than that but I want to so bad.

Q: Something has been on my mind lately, do you think the whole debacle with Ken Penders contributed to Archie and SEGA not continuing their relationship? I understand that was years later, but the ripple effect of the reboot must've hurt a lot.

A: No. It had no–it–it didn't help things, but it was not a major contributing factor. The reboot happened, it sucked at the time, but we were rolling full steam ahead and just other stuff happened. And here we are.

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