Sonic & SEGA All Stars Racing

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  1. Blue Blood

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    <!--quoteo(post=364596:date=Oct 22 2009, 12:21 PM:name=ICEknight)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ICEknight @ Oct 22 2009, 12:21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=364596"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=364457:date=Oct 21 2009, 05:58 PM:name=Solid SOAP)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Solid SOAP @ Oct 21 2009, 05:58 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=364457"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=364455:date=Oct 21 2009, 06:54 PM:name=OSM)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (OSM @ Oct 21 2009, 06:54 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=364455"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Also god dammit Sonic Heroes was terrible stop reminding me about it SEGA.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Sonic Heroes wasn't that bad. :(<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->...But is was by no means a "classic", as they seem to be implying.
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    No doubt that it was visually styled like one. Seaside Hill stands out from Emerald Coast and Wave Ocean pretty well. That's not to say old levels aren't forgotten- I think SEGA thinks of classic Sonic as Green Hill Zone and more Green Hill Zone.
     
  2. muteKi

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    Adapting Sonic Heroes' levels for a racing game strikes me as an excellent idea, really.

    They were visually interesting, though not a huge joy to play.
     
  3. Clutch

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    Yeah, if nothing else, Heroes' levels did have a nice atmosphere: levels saturated with color and filled with surreal elements. Probably one of the closest to the old games, in that regard.
     
  4. Jayenkai

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    I loved the Heroes style, too. Really reminded me more of Sonic 2 than the other 3D's have.
    But, damn, those bottomless pits!!

    If my car spends more than 95% of the game flying off the track, I'm gonna be ticked!

    (fists in the air, in a kirk/kahn style)
    RAAAIIINBOOWWW ROOOOOOAAAAAAD!!!



    As for missions, I don't mind as long as they're "Just" missions.
    But this is Sega.
    To play X/Y/Z track in multiplayer, you're going to be forced to play 17 weeks worth of Missions before they're unlocked.
    ...
    I still haven't had a half decent game of 2-Player Sonic Adventure 2, yet!
     
  5. TimmiT

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    Since Curien's Mansion is in this game, there should be a mission where you have to drive over zombies! :specialed:
     
  6. Xilla

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    They could have killed two birds with one stone by putting Jacky in the car from Virtua Racing.
     
  7. Cooljerk

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    <!--quoteo(post=364667:date=Oct 22 2009, 09:43 AM:name=Xilla)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Xilla @ Oct 22 2009, 09:43 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=364667"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->They could have killed two birds with one stone by putting Jacky in the car from Virtua Racing.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Oh my god, that would be awesome. Call it "Team Model 1"

    Hell, use their model 1 character models. Quads and all. That would fucking rule.
     
  8. Clutch

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    I may not mind the missions, though I hope the load times for them aren't as bad as they were in the Riders games.
     
  9. GagaMan

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    <!--quoteo(post=364667:date=Oct 22 2009, 12:43 PM:name=Xilla)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Xilla @ Oct 22 2009, 12:43 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=364667"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->They could have killed two birds with one stone by putting Jacky in the car from Virtua Racing.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Or even better: the Hornet from Daytona, which he actually drives in a cut scene in Virtua Fighter Kids. :)
     
  10. Sonic Warrior TJ

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    I know they said countless times for every 3D game post-SA2 that they were rebooting the series, but Sonic Heroes was the one with the most emphasis on it. It was Sonic's first original multiplatform title and they were introducing the series to owners of other consoles, so I don't see why they wouldn't use such locales, as I imagine several (younger) gamers with XBOXes and PS2s had their first Sonic experience with Heroes (then again, they probably played Mega Collection + shortly thereafter, so who knows?).

    And missions sound fine to me. If the racing and tracks are well implemented/designed and fun, the missions can't be <I>that</I> much of an annoyance.
     
  11. Dark Sonic

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    <!--quoteo(post=364725:date=Oct 22 2009, 11:31 AM:name=Sonic Warrior TJ)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sonic Warrior TJ @ Oct 22 2009, 11:31 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=364725"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I know they said countless times for every 3D game post-SA2 that they were rebooting the series, but Sonic Heroes was the one with the most emphasis on it. It was Sonic's first original multiplatform title and they were introducing the series to owners of other consoles, so I don't see why they wouldn't use such locales, as I imagine several (younger) gamers with XBOXes and PS2s had their first Sonic experience with Heroes (then again, they probably played Mega Collection + shortly thereafter, so who knows?).

    And missions sound fine to me. If the racing and tracks are well implemented/designed and fun, the missions can't be <I>that</I> much of an annoyance.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I liked Mario Kart DS's mission mode actually. Hopefully it's something like that, minus the rankings.
     
  12. Dr. Mecha

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    <!--quoteo(post=364719:date=Oct 22 2009, 02:23 PM:name=GagaMan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GagaMan @ Oct 22 2009, 02:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=364719"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=364667:date=Oct 22 2009, 12:43 PM:name=Xilla)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Xilla @ Oct 22 2009, 12:43 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=364667"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->They could have killed two birds with one stone by putting Jacky in the car from Virtua Racing.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Or even better: the Hornet from Daytona, which he actually drives in a cut scene in Virtua Fighter Kids. :)
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    They could also trow in that Beginner track from Daytona:
    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Wp2Qh0Tv0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Wp2Qh0Tv0</a>
    Hell, they could even use the Daytona theme song to go with it:
    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSyqcJ8k7n0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSyqcJ8k7n0</a>
     
  13. OSM

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    New article.
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    - racecars are best on hard surfaces, but slower on offroad
    - motorcycles have average speed on all surfaces but better acceleration and handling
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    - paintball bomb weapon obscures an opponent's vision
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    - Confusing Star "rolls the screen 180 degrees. For some reason you just can't switch left and right in your head and although we don't do anything to the controls, it always takes you by surprise."
    - 20 courses
    - Sonic's Seaside Hill, Casino Park, and Final Fortress, Billy Hatcher's Blizzard Beach, Jet Set Radio's Tokyo-To, Curien's Mansion from The House of the Dead, levels from Super Monkey Ball and Samba de Amigo, and more
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    I thought the missions were mandatory, <I>THAT'S</I> what worried me. Faith restored.
     
  14. Shadow Hog

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    <!--quoteo(post=364646:date=Oct 22 2009, 11:46 AM:name=TimmiT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TimmiT @ Oct 22 2009, 11:46 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=364646"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Since Curien's Mansion is in this game, there should be a mission where you have to drive over zombies! :specialed:<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->53,597 of them?

    <!--QuoteBegin-Dr.Mecha+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dr.Mecha)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->They could also trow in that Beginner track from Daytona:
    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Wp2Qh0Tv0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Wp2Qh0Tv0</a>
    Hell, they could even use the Daytona theme song to go with it:
    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSyqcJ8k7n0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSyqcJ8k7n0</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->No, if you're including Three Seven Speedway, you're including "King of Speed" with "ROOOOLIIIING STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAART" and everything. "Let's Go Away" DOES NOT WORK there. (Well, despite the "cheat" that lets you use the music there anyway by holding in a view button when you choose the stage, BUT STILL.)
     
  15. synchronizer

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    They ONLY have Sonic Heroes based levels... What?
     
  16. test-object

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    <!--quoteo(post=365113:date=Oct 23 2009, 09:36 PM:name=synchronizer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (synchronizer @ Oct 23 2009, 09:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=365113"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->They ONLY have Sonic Heroes based levels... What?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->What, they have to KEEP remaking Sonic 1-3&K levels? That's a dull idea.
     
  17. Dark Sonic

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    <!--quoteo(post=365118:date=Oct 23 2009, 12:07 PM:name=test-object)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (test-object @ Oct 23 2009, 12:07 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=365118"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=365113:date=Oct 23 2009, 09:36 PM:name=synchronizer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (synchronizer @ Oct 23 2009, 09:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=365113"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->They ONLY have Sonic Heroes based levels... What?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->What, they have to KEEP remaking Sonic 1-3&K levels? That's a dull idea.
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    "Keep"? When have they ever remade another level besides GHZ and SBZ (SST)? I want to see a Death Egg Zone Sonic 3 remake. Or a Marble Garden Zone revamp. What about Carnival Night I might ask? They have completely ignored Sonic 3 and Knuckles as far as remakes go, in fact the first time they acknowledged it again was when they remixed Sky Sanctuary for M&S (In fact I think that was the first time they remade a Sonic 2 level in any form).
     
  18. synchronizer

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    Exactly. It surprises me that only Sonic Heroes levels were used and not ones from Sonic 1, 2, CD, 3 and Knuckles, or the other 3d titles at least.
     
  19. Shadow Hog

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    I'm pretty sure Sega is convinced <I>Heroes</I> was a masterpiece that everyone fondly remembers. After all, they keep giving us fanservice for it. I mean, 3 pages of shots from it in <I>Sonic Gems Collection</I> (as opposed to 1 for each <I>Adventure</I>, IIRC), the <I>Heroes</I> theme being the first one played in Sonic's Dream Skating Event in <I>Mario & Sonic Winter Olympics</I>, <I>Heroes</I> stages up the wazoo in <I>All-Stars Racing</I>...

    Although to be fair, <I>Heroes</I>' stages WERE visually interesting - one of the few things it did very, very right.
     
  20. Let's see... there's 20 stages, and 20 characters. I'm guessing each one has a stage that's their "home" - so I wouldn't be surprised to see more Sonic stages, especially ones that aren't from Heroes.

    Also, with 80 pieces of music and Final Fortress, there had better be the Egg Fleet track in there somewhere.
     
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