Sonic RPG now official

Ashura96 · Jun 22, 2007

guess_who said:

Sonic Battle and Sonic Adventure have some RPG-esque qualities, but neither of them could be fairly called RPGs since they fit much better in to other genres.
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Couldn't be said any better.

I just hope that this game will have real time battles (just like destroying enemies in any other Sonic game) instead of turn based battles.

It'd be nice if it had a system like in Brave Fencer Musashi.

Ritz · Jun 22, 2007

guess_who said:

Sonic Battle and Sonic Adventure have some RPG-esque qualities, but neither of them could be fairly called RPGs since they fit much better in to other genres.
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Agreed. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they are RPGs, only that they bear some similarities to the genre.

stormislandgal · Jun 22, 2007

RPG out of the racing genre? Try RCProAmII for NES. =P

Ayla · Jun 22, 2007

A bit off the current flow, but does anyone else think that they'd have to completely depart from the current Segasonic mainstream story line to make an effective Sonic RPG? When all you have is a shitty storyline getting shittier plotline to work with, it makes telling a story a lot more difficult in my opinion. Gameplay might still be fine, but staying within the current Sonic Adventure timeline would produce mass faggotry, imo.

Just to make it clear, I'm not saying it shouldn't be segasonic... I'm saying that they should pretend anything after sonic adventure didn't happen and do something new and less gay.

Ashura96 · Jun 22, 2007

Nayr T said:

Well look what happened with Namco x Capcom

They had to make a completely different story, involving characters made exclusively for that game,
As for all the other characters having a place in the game - THIS is why: Characters, both good and evil, from other times and other worlds begin appearing in Japan in the year 20XX.

Lovely BS isn't it? No wonder the game wasn't released outside of Japan.
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Nicholas Onimura · Jun 22, 2007

If BioWare's co-making it, then this game has a very slight chance of not sucking.

~Nick

Metal Man88 · Jun 22, 2007

Maybe this can give the storyline a mass overhaul ala the Crisis of Infinite Earths?

Chimpo · Jun 23, 2007

Ashura96 said:

Well look what happened with Namco x Capcom

They had to make a completely different story, involving characters made exclusively for that game,
As for all the other characters having a place in the game - THIS is why: Characters, both good and evil, from other times and other worlds begin appearing in Japan in the year 20XX.

Lovely BS isn't it? No wonder the game wasn't released outside of Japan.
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Yeah, lovely stuff straight from a Wikipedia summary!

stormislandgal · Jun 23, 2007

I'm getting a vibe here: Sonic and friends will be sitting in Station Square having a massive orgy when Silver shouts out "Time Travel", they travel to the past, fight the scrapped dragon boss from Windy Valley, learn how to use swords and turn green, fighting Eggman Nega.

Chimpo · Jun 23, 2007

I prefer robot overlords robotizing everything up so there can be plenty of explosions everywhere.

5 Bucks Robotnik joins your team halfway.

JcFerggy · Jun 23, 2007

Chimpo said:

I prefer robot overlords robotizing everything up so there can be plenty of explosions everywhere.

5 Bucks Robotnik joins your team halfway.
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Super Paper Mario style much?

Ashura96 · Jun 23, 2007

Chimpo said:

Yeah, lovely stuff straight from a Wikipedia summary!
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Well you probably not going to find much else in English...

Molotok · Jun 23, 2007

Ashura96 said:

Nayr T said:

Well look what happened with Namco x Capcom

They had to make a completely different story, involving characters made exclusively for that game,
As for all the other characters having a place in the game - THIS is why: Characters, both good and evil, from other times and other worlds begin appearing in Japan in the year 20XX.

Lovely BS isn't it? No wonder the game wasn't released outside of Japan.
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Well, look at what happened with Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars (Square and Nintendo), Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga and Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time (AlphaDream), and the Paper Mario series (Intelligent Systems).

Only downside to all that is, of course, the most dreaded phrase... the more horrible combination of words, the most terrible sequence of syllables ever known to the Sonic community... "new characters".

So, in order for this to be a good game... it might have to also be a "crappy game" due to most likely needing new characters. Although, I'd hope the major reason people don't like new characters in a Sonic game is because their backstories are hardly expanded upon or just very simplistic to begin with (that and some characters are and/or look like recolors of a previous character) than the plain fact that there are new characters.

And the other main problem is to balance the gameplay (whatever it may be) and the story (which is the main component for any RPG game)... Which would be the other major bitch that the Sonic community has with the recent games in that they focused too much on the story and/or graphics and not enough on the gameplay.

Replay value could be increased (as with other RPGs) if there are multiple endings depending on your actions (so, we'll be going back to Shadow the Hedgehog ideas).

So, even before we have screenshots, I can say that this is going to have/is having mixed reactions due to the fact that some people have wanted a Sonic RPG for a while, but others see that past "crappy components" are coming back to rear their ugly faces for better or for worse (the cynical could point out that "How could it get worse?").
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Shadow Hog · Jun 23, 2007

"Molotok" said:

Only downside to all that is, of course, the most dreaded phrase... the more horrible combination of words, the most terrible sequence of syllables ever known to the Sonic community... "new characters".
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Nonsense. The "most dreaded phrase", the "more (sic) horrible combination of words", and the "most terrible sequence of syllables ever known to the Sonic community" would all be bad level design which places emphasis on rote memorization of traps and such to go fast instead of preserving any sense of flow. Also using bottomless pits as traps, at that. Almost ALWAYS.

Upthorn · Jun 23, 2007

Billy said:

Ugh, what's next? Shadow the Hedgehog?!?!
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fixed.

Also:
Actually, Sonic Adventure was originally planned to be an RPG, and you can see some elements of that remaining, like:
An overworld,
Item collection to gain new powers,
Fishing minigame,
Shooting minigame,
Story involving power of a god,
NPCs who repeat the same thing over and over.

Also, with Bioware on the job, this game has a pretty good chance of not sucking.
Also, with Bioware on the job, don't expect it to have a Final Fantasy like turn-based battle system, or be anything like JRPGs in general.

Tweaker · Jun 23, 2007

Upthorn said:

Actually, Sonic Adventure was originally planned to be an RPG,
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And you know this... how? Where's your proof?

Ritz · Jun 23, 2007

Upthorn said:

Also, with Bioware on the job, don't expect it to have a Final Fantasy like turn-based battle system, or be anything like JRPGs in general.
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"big_smile" said:

Hari Hari found this. It's an article covering a recruitment ad from Bio Ware that was published in 2006. The ad is specifically looking a person who has "experience in the design of successful games targeted at the Japanese market," and an "experience/passion for Japanese games", stating that a "familiarity with the fantasy genre and role-playing games is a must."

Given the date, and the fact that BioWare have yet to announce any other projects that would appeal to a Japanese market, the ad is most likely related to Sonic RPG. This suggests that the new game will not be connected to the Archie comics or Sonic X (which are both unpopular in Japan). It also indicates that the game is not connected to the critical failure of Sonic the Hedgehog (Next Gen).
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Basically, Bioware plans to emulate JPRG style with this game (Whatever the hell "JRPG style" is supposed to be).

Super · Jun 24, 2007

ThunderSpeed said:

I'm getting a vibe here: Sonic and friends will be sitting in Station Square having a massive orgy when Silver shouts out "Time Travel", they travel to the past, fight the scrapped dragon boss from Windy Valley, learn how to use swords and turn green, fighting Eggman Nega.
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There goes my story idea for Sonic Uno.

But on a more serious note - I love RPG's, I love Sonic, Mix 'em together you probably get crap. But, as a fan of almost all of BioWare's other works, That being KoTOR and Baulder's Gate, I actually have hope for this. My guess is that your Armor will be consisting of Different Rings and... most likely(considering Sega still has some control, I bet) Shoes. Sucky, yes, but eh, I'm gonna buy a DS for this game never-the-less, as I have a childhood dream fulfilled.

Yes, I have pretty much shown a bit of a blatent fanboyism in this post, and I probably will suffer for it.

Shadow Hog · Jun 24, 2007

Super said:

My guess is that your Armor will be consisting of Different Rings and... most likely(considering Sega still has some control, I bet) Shoes.
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Shoes and other clothing are possible (heck, maybe you can play the entire game without shoes, for no other reason than you can - and that it'd probably not give you any stat boosts, thus giving you a more challenging run through the game, similar to "Naked Alucard" runs in Symphony of the Night). However, I seriously doubt that rings are going to be your armor of all things. Health, certainly, but for armor, a far more logical solution exists: shields. Bog Standard Shields from Sonic 1 & 2 with no elemental leanings but perhaps slightly stronger defense all around, Lightning Shields which specialize in neutralizing electric attacks and possibly attracting health, Fire Shields which specialize in neutralizing fire and explosive attacks and do extra Fire damage on enemies, Water Shields which specialize in neutralizing water-based attacks and allow for underwater breathing (if necessary)... Heck, you could probably add new shields, like Virus Shields which protect against Poison but randomly inflict computer viruses or Poison on your opponents (depending on whether they're electrical or fleshy), Invisi Shields which cause attacks by opponents to miss at a higher rate but with lower overall defense, and so on. The possibilities are endless.

Super · Jun 24, 2007

I didn't make myself clear. I meant rings that are placed on one's fingers. Not the standerd Sonic Rings, but the more conventional ones.

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