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Sonic Origins Collection - General Thread

Discussion in 'General Sonic Discussion' started by HEDGESMFG, May 27, 2021.

  1. Snowbound

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    Excellent summary. One slightly older and more speculative bit of Origins “news“ is that this clip Xbox’s social media posted during the Oscars MIGHT be footage of Origins:
    https://twitter.com/xbox/status/1508232467051864076?s=21

    As you say most of this is pie in the sky stuff. That said a playable Amy and/or Metal Sonic is definitely a possibility, especially after the fans were so disappointed that she wasn’t playable in Mania plus. Tbh I was expecting Mighty and Ray to be ported over cuz they’ve already been made in the retro engine... but IIRC someone else pointed out in another thread that the newest version of the retro engine used for mania is actually very different than the one for the 2011-2013 ports... so we’ll see.
     
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  2. SuperSnoopy

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    Significantly lower your expectations too :V, I don't expect anything more than a 16/9 port of sonic 3 and the taxman and stealth ports of 1/2/CD tbh
     
  3. MykonosFan

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    My far-off hope: each character playable in each game would be neat. Officially being Knuckles in Sonic CD would be a nice 2022 thing. My pie in the sky hope is a Metal Sonic sprite swap for Sonic since that's a running trend now...so it isn't going to take much for me to go "Ah, that's better than I expected" when we do see this thing, I guess. :V
     
  4. RetroJordan91

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    @Snowbound you are correct.. CD ran on v3 of the Retro Engine, 1 & 2 ran on v4, and Mania ran on v5
     
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  5. Starduster

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    Yeah, everything beyond Amy and Metal Sonic being playable is pie-in-the-sky, and even that initial hope itself is unlikely. At the end of the day, I'd just be happy to play 16:9 versions of the classics on console/PC. Anything beyond that is a bonus, even including the key art we have for the game now.
     
  6. Snub-n0zeMunkey

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    I'm still holding out hope for a spiritual successor Sonic Jam's "sonic world". It's not gonna happen and I'll be perfectly fine with that, but I can dream :V
     
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    The airbrush art is very nice. The green used on the Origins and bottom-glow is neat, wonder if the menus will carry that as a motif?
    I heavily doubt Amy, Metal, and Eggman being in the image means anything other than being a nice group shot of the important cast members of each included game.

    • Knuckles backport to CD.
    • Revamp the Time Attack modes in all games to be more like Mania, with the reset button and lack of bosses. Add the 3K special stages since they're skill based, like CD and S1.
    • Take the expanded 2P VS mode from 2013-S2 and apply it to the other games. Have the screen options from Mania for stretching/normal size but cropped. No clue what would become of 3's weird 2P VS tho.
    • A gallery with more HQ concept art, like that one proto-Knuckles from last month. (Getting Yamaguchi S2 concept art was wonderful, would love to get more art of 3K robots like these existing ones: [][])
     
  8. Snub-n0zeMunkey

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    I've not seen this brought up much but I hope they've worked something out with Sonic CD's JP Vocal themes. If they can work something out with Sonic 3's soundtrack, hopefully they can do this too.

    I'd also like it if CD lets you could set certain tracks for specific instances. Like, for example if you could set the boss music to automatically be the US version so you don't have to keep going back to the main menu to set it, if that makes sense.
     
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  9. Linkabel

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    I didn't even think of that but it would be nice to have the vocals. Would make it more of a definitive version.
     
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  10. RetroJordan91

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    That’s also one of the things I’m looking for with this.. in 2012 they were able to release the CD OST with the vocals intact so I don’t see why they can’t do it this time
     
  11. Zigetch

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    The artwork is lovely and it makes me excited about what the collection could be like.

    I really hope it has ambient menus and background music like Jam/Mega/Gems did. I've spent literal hours just looking at the artwork and manuals while zoning out to the music.

    Yeah, I would be positively euphoric if they did this again, Jam's hub world was so much fun. I've always had this fascination with Classic Sonic being in 3D spaces and this could be a great venue to try that again without devoting it to it's own entire game.

    Ahh I'd better not rocket my expectations of this compilation so soon. I'd be happy with a solid widescreen collection of the Sacred Quintology all in one place, finally.
     
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    I just played through Jam pretty recently, I'm interested to see how this compares presentation-wise. The key art is nice - I feel like the poses are a lot more dynamic than what Sonic, Tails and Knuckles got for their Mania key art.

    Still feels weird we dont have any idea who is actually making this! I feel like knowing that would help with the parameters of what all to expect.
     
  13. TheOcelot

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    Yay, it's nice to finally get some news, even if it's just a rating and a nice piece of art.

    Fingers crossed for a proper reveal soon, it's been an agonising wait.

    Yeah, this has always bugged me. They were able to include the vocals (because SEGA finally bought the rights to them) in the 2011 20th anniversary OST and yet they weren't able to include them in Taxman's version of CD even though the OST released before the game. Surely there's no reason why the vocals can't be included in the Origins version.
     
  14. HEDGESMFG

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    The thing you're waiting for is the mod community to get their hands on this collection. So much good stuff has already been done with the decompiled Taxman ports and Sonic 3 AIR, that if a lot of those mods just get ported to Origins, and you're okay with playing on PC, you're good to go.

    And I'm glad to have this thread back. It's been too long.
     
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  15. Starduster

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    Please god above let us have the Sonic 3 2P zones remade to play at the same scale as the rest of the game, with redone graphics to boot.
     
  16. biggestsonicfan

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    Anybody expecting anything more than the "Sega Forever repackage" shill I think is going to be disappointed.
     
  17. I just hope that the entire collection is built in the Retro engine or some fork of it. That's all I really want, although having the primary cast, or any new additions, playable in each entry would have me ecstatic.
     
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    Tokyo Toy Show demo! I'm kidding.
     
  19. Crimson Neo

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    As I said earlier, I really loved this artwork, reminds a lot of the SEGA Saturn / Sonic Jam vibes.

    Probably not gonna happen, but I really wanted they use some music from Sonic The Hedgehog ~ Remix (1994) and Virtual Sonic albuns for the menus, just because I think it's good and maybe would fit with it.

    I probably said this already, but as for Sonic CD US soundtrack, it would be kinda nice if they use the album (Sonic the Hedgehog Boom) version of the stage themes, like this one.
     
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