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Sonic Origins Collection - General Thread

Discussion in 'General Sonic Discussion' started by HEDGESMFG, May 27, 2021.

  1. Snatcher42

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    So, I know no one cares and it's a huge waste of money, but... what's going on with the Pix n' Love Collector's Edition? After months of delays it's finally showing "in-stock", but my order from (checks notes) September has yet to ship.
     
  2. Snatcher42

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    It's on the way now.



    Anyone else buy this?
     
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  3. MrMechanic

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    Yup...

    It's... well... It's far from the worst collectors edition I've bought, but... light years away from the best =/

    The biggest problem with it, is the art book, if it were the first ever Sonic art book, it'd be fantastic! Hard cover, loads of pages, huge range of material. The problem, is that none of it is 'new', it's stuff that we've seen in countless books before and there isn't one subject that really goes into a lot of depth, it's like "Here is the page about X, now the page about Y, Now Z....", there's also a huge lack of annotations or any additional detail as to what we're looking at.

    At the most you get something like "The concept art for Knuckles" or "Cover artwork for Sonic 2" and... that's about it!

    The other stuff you get is a bit "What do I do with this?" one of the items is basically a table mat for hot plates, which... well... it's different but... I can't really do anything with it, there's no stand so if you want it on display, you have to rig something up. The art cards are... existing.

    It's literally just an "OK" effort, maybe if you don't have any of the other big Sonic artbooks, you could use this as a psudo autograph book like I know many people do, but since it's only Classic era focused, it's a tad odd to ask for comic writers autographs when it has no information on them, let alone anything 3D era related.


    And no, there's nothing new about R2 or even artwork of the 'city' from Origins' ending.
     
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  4. Snatcher42

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    Still waiting for mine to arrive, but yes from what I've seen I have to agree. Still glad I got it, though. One nice surprise is the whole thing seems to be a lot larger than I imagined from the preview pics.
     
  5. Blue Blood

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    Apparently I also pre-ordered this Collector's Edition. I'd completely forgotten and honestly would have said I didn't bother if you'd asked me.

    It's... Yeah, no. It's a nicely presented box of nothing.
     
  6. KingOfBunnies

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    Weird to do announce a collector's edition 3 months after the game is out and then ship it almost a full year later.
     
  7. Londinium

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    Sonic Origins is a scam
     
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    If it was a scam, we shouldn't bought a product in the first place.
     
  9. Kyro

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    All this time later and I still think Origins was fine. Not great, should be better, but fine. Getting the mobile remasters officially ported is enough for me still, tbh, it just shouldnt have been as expensive as it was
     
  10. David The Lurker

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    I am still waiting for the first great Sonic art book.

    To be fair, when they announced it, I wasn't expecting anything more than a physical representation of the images in the museum. And that seems to be it? Which...fair. But those images in the museum weren't presented in the best way to begin with. I'd written about my disappointment in the extra's presentation on the front page of Retro prior to the release of Plus, and while I didn't expect much to change with the physical release, I was hoping they might add a few things, or even a few sentences to explain some of the random images. They did not. If they didn't bother with the update, I wasn't expecting the book to be much more, though you'd think maybe I would since Pix n Love were responsible for the History of Sonic book back in 2011 (though even that book isn't perfect). I mean, there isn't even an introductory essay in this art book! So strange.

    I guess I'm also still waiting for the truly great Sonic the Hedgehog collection, too.
     
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  11. Snatcher42

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    It's frequently around $20 on amazon these days, saw it go as low as $5 once. After all the patches (no more blur, option for mono game gear sound, etc.), I think it's a fine collection. How I'll play the games on console now. But the collector's edition is just baffling. I'm glad to have it, but after all this time it's like... why?
     
  12. Harper

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    Honestly with Ultrafix and mods to replace the OST with higher quality sounds, Origins is my go to way for replaying the classics now. It's easy to recommend to other people as well as long as they're able to play the Steam version.
     
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    I still prefer the decomps but at least now some people are getting their money’s worth.
     
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    I also love the decomps on PC. That's how I mainly play the classics on the computer; Origins on Steam only makes sense if you want mods, achievements, and a playtime/hour count to log, I think. (Which can be appealing; I have double-dipped on some games via Steam for achievement hunting.)

    The Switch version is what I bought, so I can have all of these remasters on-the-go in one package. I missed out on my chance to buy the original Sonic CD remaster for Android, and Sonic 1 + 2 seem to have aspect ratio stretching issues I can't resolve on my newer phone. This gives Origins a lot of value for me in its portability; I'm happy with the collection as-is. (Warts and all.)
     
  15. Glaber

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    Origins is what I wanted at least. A port of the remakes.
     
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    This is almost certainly because they don't know what to say.

    Well okay, chances are they were never going to bother because that takes effort, but there isn't some unifying main Sonic artist for the first five years of the franchise - the people behind the box art were different to those making the in-game graphics, who in turn differed between 1/2/3/CD, and none of them were directly involved in Origins' production.


    So there's a bunch of people in Sega of Japan or America that have access to bits of artwork, no context, and no easy means of communicating with the original authors... if they even know who the authors are - I bet Sonic Retro is one of their main sources of knowledge.
     
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  17. Snatcher42

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    There also isn't much text in the artbook because this is a French release (the game box is French) that they wanted to appeal internationally.
     
  18. David The Lurker

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    "It takes effort" makes sense me. "They don't know what to say" doesn't. Like I said before, it's made by a company that has already written a book about the history of Sonic the Hedgehog. They could have been extremely lazy and copy/pasted some text from that if they wanted to.

    They didn't have to sit down and do some in-depth interview with every artist who worked on the game (though that would be the coolest), they could have simply credited who drew what. Someone should know, somewhere. Even if all they did was go online and say "oh yeah Greg Martin drew this American cover." But Origins is odd in that manner because in the game museum, the English version doesn't have credits for the IDW covers - but the Japanese version does. Like. What.

    Even without access to the original artists, they could have done something slightly more with that book. Track down a historian and ask them to write about Sonic the Hedgehog as a concept, why the original game was such a big deal, how Sonic 2 was a cultural touchstone for so many.

    This makes sense, unfortunately. The original History of Sonic book was published in French first, then had an English translation. It costs money to translate, especially a whole book's worth. Even an essay just talking about the importance of Sonic in the 16-bit era would, if it was originally written in French, need to be translated. Suddenly, you have multiple versions of the same special edition. Do you just stop with French and English? Do you translate it in Spanish, German, Italian? They might not have had the budget to allow that. So. Yeah, I guess.