Sonic Origins Collection - General Thread

Ehhh, just kinda reminds me how Sonic Jam added TWO 'easy mode' level layouts but no 'hard mode' or any other variation that ADDED to the layout. I've played these games a million times, I want more than just a simplified version of the same thing.

It's not just little sisters that are paying £10 for this after all. :P

(Poor Sonic, he waited two and a half decades to get a cool 2D move to himself. :P)

 

So it's pretty much 10 bucks for Double-Jump Sonic.
Bargain bin price it is then....

 

Six year old me played Amy in Advance all the live long day despite hating girly stuff and not even liking Amy's character at the time, no less the color pink. I would think Tails' flight would be infinitely more appealing to any struggling little sister than a not-immediately-useful double jump anyway.

 

Atm I’m feeling neutral about Amy. I’ll need to see how Amy feels to play. I’m not disappointed that she isn’t accurate to her Advance 1 moveset but I was personally hoping her hammer spinjump could be used to bounce forward off the ground and enemies.

 

I wish people on youtube knew how to fucking audio balance their videos. I had to turn that shit way down because it killed my ears with my headset on. Unreal people just don't do their audio correctly.

 

Considering how much games get away with these days, that's a dangerously low bar.

The DLC probably already exists on the cartridge/disc. The DLC code just unlocks it.

 

Why even do that though lol

 

They're not great across the board. Some are better than others (facing the camera in the Sonic CD special stages looks just about on-point) but during normal gameplay it's looking like a fan game from 15-20 years ago.

We know the Sonic CD team had a couple of attempts to get the graphics right back in 1993, so it's clearly not an easy task, but paying extra for "pink Sonic" isn't appealling. The Knuckles additions look fine enough though... although I feel like his inclusion in Sonic CD should really be a free extra, given it was such an obvious hole in the original package.


I'm sure there are people on this board that can draw much more accurate and expressive Amy sprites. One point I noticed is that despite the character being physically smaller, her "curl up into a ball" sprites seem to be the same size as Sonic and Knuckles (so bigger than Tails). The spindash in particular is really out of place, and the hammer looks kinda crappy in motion too. It's not a terrible effort for a fan project, but as pointed out, given how well Ray and Mighty were implemented in Sonic Mania, it's a clear step back.


If Sega are going to cherry-pick people from this community to make games for them, hang around and let us help you. Yes the industry is a fan of non-disclosure agreements, but consider it a form of beta testing - we know Amy's in the game, there are no secrets, so let's make her better before launch. I mean, it'll happen with mods eventually.

 

Because, this way, people who buy the game second-hand have to buy their own code. Sega needs to pinch every last penny out of this release, after all.

 

This is really bad lol. The audio is echo-y, like it's put through a phaser, and the games (or just the audio, can't tell) have copious amounts of microstuttering.

 

And there goes the chance of a new 3D island on Origins.

Such cheap way of injecting the GG games into the fray...

 

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How could they possibly fuck up what they got right on Y2K hardware? They could literally just take emulator code from someone else. Cheese and fucking rice.

 

What’s the current state of the origins modding scene? Do u think plus will re-invigorate it? I want to buy the game to send a message to Sega to keep working with Headcanon but rn I’m divided between getting the PC or Switch version. The PC version has the potential benefit of mods but the drawback of denuvo. I’m assuming the lack of denuvo on switch means better performance, but it also means being stuck with the crappy sonic 3 song replacements and (if they don’t add extra filters) blurry graphics

 

Good lord, Sonic Adventure DX as a botched PC port has more consistent Game Gear emulation. Sega what the hell are you doing and why are you cutting as many corners as humanly possible?
Now I can't even imagine them getting off their asses to, say, have the Classic Modes be emulated versions of the Genesis/SCD games, because even with music debacles aside they'd probably find some way to make M2 cry.

 

Now, I don't have any real expectations for anything in Origins Plus and I'm aware of the considerable possibility that I'll end up eating my words, but regardless, bear in mind this is an unofficial recording from some schmoe and perhaps not the best indication of the quality of emulation.

 

The menus in the same video don't have the issues the emulation does. The audio issues were also heard in previous promotional material.

 

I just want a nice way to play the classic games on my TV. I have the definitive decomps, S3AIR etc on PC but it’s in a different room than my TV, and I would rather just have them on a game console. I’ve been holding out to see how Origins Plus turns out, and after seeing the footage I think I’m going to pull the plug and get… Sonic Mega Collection Plus on PS2, that seems like a sweet deal. Either that or a Mega Drive Mini.

 

To my untrained ear it sounds as if the left and right stereo channels are slightly out of sync.

Though to my very well trained eyes, it's in the wrong aspect ratio.

 

I've changed my mind... kinda.

https://i.imgur.com/mweVziP.png

I recorded the audio from that YouTube video (top), then took my own recording from Kega Fusion (bottom). If you ignore all the added noise (and the sound effects), you can see the waveforms go out of sync. Because Origins Plus is lagging.

Also the left and right speakers should be identical, which they're not in Origins Plus. The channels aren't out of sync per se, just corrupting at different times.

 

The sound quality isn't top notch and I'm disappointed there's no toggles for render or anything, though I'll give points that they kept the link game modes for the multiplayer games (I hope they don't have the dual screen lag SADX and Gems had though, that was.....more than just an echo). :P

What is "Surprise" though?

This is getting more and more disappointing. The 'Plus' package already seemed kinda unwhelming compared to Mania Plus' contents for half the price, but I feel like I would have at least appreciated it if it were executed in good quality. All that's left now is Knuckles in Sonic CD, which many say should have been in the vanilla package in the first place.