Sonic Origins Collection - General Thread

Some gameplay footage of Amy has leaked online. Some people have had trouble accessing said videos on YouTube so they might have been taken down. So for those that want to go in fresh, watch out.

 

Tails starting pose in CD's special stages was a reference to Tails concept art from Sonic 3. So I wonder if Amy's starting pose in this montage is also a reference to some previous concept art?

 

I had to look that up because I actually forgot. I guess it was. Based me.

 

Godamn it, the video got deleted.

 

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Contrary to what most people assumed, Amy's moveset looks rather different here. In Superstars, you hammer spin automatically when you jump, and it'll last as long as you hold the button. You can also double jump to repeat the process. In Origins Plus, it looks like you have to manually activate the hammer spin by pressing the button after jumping, and there is no double jump at all. Running with the hammer out remains to be seen.

This is... a really weird decision? Why not just give them the same moveset? It's not like Superstars' Amy moveset is too complicated for the classic games, as it slots right in with Tails and Knuckles as far as complexity goes. Origins Plus's take doesn't seem as interesting to me, and if anything, having a difference in moveset between the two Classic games (released close to one another) seems more confusing. Her art looks good though!

 

Yeah I'm starting to get won over by these sprites, it's odd they didn't expand the CD ones but they're very in style with those. One detail they do keep with Advance at least, that lovely expressiveness. Amy is so lively looking so far.

Also I see the other benefit of the 8 bit games being here now, Amy had a relatively better run in those.

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Huh. Really? You mean like Advance 1 rules? That's strange. You'd think they'd want it to be uniform to promote Superstars yeah. Any idea what her other abilities are in Origins?

I'm actually starting to wonder if Amy's abilities are maybe customizable, like Sonic's are in Mania. Would explain some of these inconsistencies..

 

Sonic Official stream live now with official public Amy gameplay.

 

The Sonic 1 Amy sprites aren't looking too hot.

 

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Sigh. Okay I know given my projects I was gonna be disappointed either way, but this looks.....meh.

She's literally just Sonic with a boosted insta shield and Drop Dash. She adds nothing to the experience besides making the male lead redundant by being a superior clone. Yep, she's a modern female. :P

On the plus side her sprite work is cute and expressive but that's not really enough to make her worth it. Playable Amy was meant to be THE big draw for this $10 DLC and it barely adds any sort of fresh new experience to what we already have.

 

Im pretty unimpressed too. Don't think we need to spoiler tag since the official livestream has shown her? But her moveset looks very samey and dull.

Mighty wasn't exactly the most original character ever but I think even he had a more unique style.

 

I dunno, I was being safe since I thought some avoided the videos.

But yeah, this was pretty basic.

 

I really like her art. Barring a few complaints, she looks very good. However, I really cannot say the same for her gameplay. Her moveset is very inconsistent with Superstars, which doesn't make a lot of sense considering they're being developed at similar times. The hammer spin functions differently, and you don't get a double jump.

In addition, the drop dash (that's what they called running with the hammer) just looks straight-up badly implemented. Not much sound or visual feedback, and Amy just runs forward at a set speed while swinging her hammer. You can turn around instantly and not lose any speed. It even looks like it doesn't take slopes into account, because Amy walks right up the curve of a loop with no trouble at all.

Amy in Superstars looks fine. I probably won't play as her much, but she looks fun to mess around with, and her double jump cements her as the "easy mode" character. But here, since she's missing the double jump, she just plays like Sonic with a better instashield and a very janky drop dash. I'm not too disappointed as I wasn't particularly looking forward to Origins Plus anyway, but it is unfortunate and sad.

 

I'm just....SUPER unimpressed by this approach. That they couldn't even be bothered to give her a unique signature move or even seemingly any pros/cons in her stats like even Knuckles had, and just made her kinda play like Sonic with a badly made OP mod.

Not only does it make 'playable Amy' worth barely anything but a skin (if a nicely drawn one) but it also undermines Sonic and takes away all his uniqueness (I think Superstars only escalates this with one very basic added move, she's increasingly just a 'better Sonic' but executed in the most boring way possible).

Playable Amy was meant to be a big trump card for this DLC, and yet she doesn't change the experience of playing these games AT ALL. At least Knuckles in CD can offer SOMETHING unique but it's still not worth £10.

Yeah asking for Advance 1 Amy was a stretch but they could have done better than this. Even just porting Mighty or Ray would have been more interesting an extra to add to the old games.

 

I think they mentioned that she had the double jump during the stream, idk how that will work if activating the hammer is already her double jump ability

 

So the people who complained that Amy with her Advance moveset wouldn't have been fair to those who mained her;

How's this fair for Sonic mains? :P

 

It's not meant to be "fair" it's meant for little sisters to have someone to play with.

 

Yeah but Tails is the 'little brother' varient of this and he at least gets a unique move and some subtle pros and cons.

I mean do they just think all little sisters don't want any new toys and just wanna upstage their older brother forever and ever? (I mean I get this vibe a lot with modern stuff, Coco Bandicoot got a similar retool but come on Amy had a LOT to work off of.) :P

 

I agree, but then again I'm not a little sister. Sega just wants to give little girls a pink character to play with who's not harder.