Sonic Origins Collection Announced for 2022

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  1. HEDGESMFG

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    Because this really should have its own dedicated thread on Sonic Retro for those who don't want to read the main one...

    Sonic Origins Collection Details:

    Sonic 1, 2, 3, Knuckles, and CD in one single collection.
    - S3&K footage is confirmed (Hyper Sonic and Knuckles in Angel Island shown), footage only shown in 4:3 aspect ratio.
    - Unknown if Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles can be played separately (but the title covers being shown implies it)
    - Widescreen footage shown for Sonic 1, 2, and CD, heavily implying the Taxman ports.
    - Trailer implies footage isn't final via "ORIGINAL GAMEPLAY" disclaimer shown.
    - Brings the titles to the "Latest Platforms"
    - "Now with Added Content and Features"
    - 2022 Release Window

    Trailer:


    https://twitter.com/KatieChrz/status/1397972387870642178?s=20
    Sonic 3&K Widescreen enhanced ports confirmed. Details still to be revealed.

    Thanks to Zippo's leak (which did indeed confirm this collection's existence), rumors of music replacements (likely the PC/2019 Beta Sonic 3 Songs) being used for Jackson/Buxer's songs are being circulated.

    Have fun, and let's dissect this thing.
     
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  2. Thank you for this!! I’ll just reiterate what I said in the main thread to get this one going:

    Since 1,2, and CD are widescreen, it is possible that the 3&K port will be handled by Taxman and Stealth since the Retro Engine was used for the other games.

    Possible Extras:

    -Prototype Features? (UFOs, Scrapped Level Palettes)
    -Knuckles playable in CD officially for the first time?
    -Soundtrack swapping for 3&K? (unlikely though since the beta tracks will likely be the only option)


    These would be really cool.. but what do you guys think?
     
  3. Overlord

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    Zippo guessed at it, let's be fair. Explicitly said "No S1 and S2", don't credit him for things he doesn't deserve.

    The music changes are plausible but for long-standing rights issues we all know about, not because Zippo said so.
     
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  4. Childish

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    I hope the multiplayer is online and is a seperate mode, that way you can play through whichever zones you want from any game.

    The s3 2player stages becoming full zones would a nice addition as it would flesh out knuckles' campaign more.

    Also since the sonic 1 proto was found maybe some stuff from that?

    There was a hack a while ago that allowed you to play through s1 and s2 as one game that would be a cool.

    Maybe have an option to change sonic's move set as well as appearance kinda like their doing with the skins in colours ultimate.
     
  5. He DID update his original blog post, however, to say that the Taxman remasters WILL be included long before Sonic Central was announced, so I’ll give him that.. and he initially did say Sonic 3 wouldn’t be included but then wrote another update blog stating otherwise

    So yeah.. he technically was right lol.. doesn’t mean I’m using him as a source in the future.. he just got lucky IMO
     
  6. I just had come back to watch this video again:


    With that said, I do wonder if that version wiill have the same Complete / A.I.R. fixes and content.
     
  7. Linkabel

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    I know it's not a great game but it would've been nice to include Chaotix at least. Surprised that there's not the usual 3D Blast/Spinball in the collection.

    (Unless they're all unlockables or something.)
     
  8. Shaddy the guy

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    I think if you include entire extra games in your collection, you probably put that in your announcement.
     
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    I would love if the new ports of the remakes, as well as the new version of 3 had arranged soundtracks as an option. I'd love to hear the prototype music in Sonic 3 given a new overhaul and an extra layer of polish. Doubt that will happen though.
     
  10. Starduster

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    I think it's unfair to expect S3K in this collection to have the same level of content as in Complete or Air. Not because it's not achievable, but because it's likely just outside the scope for this kind of thing. I'm sure people don't mean they need to have exactly everything those have, but there are certain fringe features that only diehards will truly appreciate, so I think trying to do everything those hacks do may just be wasted effort.

    Big stuff, though, sure. Super Sonic toggle comes to mind straight away.
     
  11. I hope that also means we're getting a Sonic 3 & Knuckles OST on Spotify as well. (Doubt about Sonic 1 and 2 tho', for obvious reasons.)
     
  12. E-122-Psi

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    It's a nice idea, but if the compilation is specifically of enhanced ports rather than the usual emulations, I can see why. They may not wanna waste time programming those games from scratch.

    I love the concept of a polished Chaotix port with an 'arrange mode' or something as an opportunity to improve its design, though that would require a lot of work, and I think Taxman even mentioned in an earlier discussion they'd be limited in how much they could genuinely alter of the more flawed titles.
     
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    Neat, hopefully they add more to the collection, specifically stuff that hasn't been seen since their inception (like Sonic Shuffle, Sega Sonic, and some of the GBA titles). At least put it on par with gems collection and mega collection combined, with Chaotix. I still can't believe that game has not seen the light of day outside of a digital only release on GameTap. lol

    btw - in case anyone was wondering since the zippo leaks kind of implied it to some extent, we're not (directly) involved with providing content for this. That's not to say SEGA or whoever they have contracted out to do this couldn't utilize some stuff we found. But I do hope that HP was at least partially responsible for getting at least Sonic 3 out from the shadow realm if the rumors are true. That'd be pretty neat.

    I wish Sega senpai would notice us some day. :(
     
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  14. Knowing Taxman and Stealth, if they’re involved they would want to get the quality of life features from both Complete and AIR.

    Maybe original zone order?
     
  15. Dark Sonic

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    I doubt they'd change the zone order. It'd be confusing for people who played 20 years ago and aren't obsessed like us.
     
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  16. Hanging Waters

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    Is anyone else a bit underwhelmed by this?

    The whole "Sonic Collection" rumor sounded exciting because there was the possibility of it NOT just being a classic collection again. I know this is the first time we're getting these remasters all in one place, but they couldn't even present that in a way that was that exciting IMO. For one thing, there's presumably no Whitehead involvement in Sonic 3K. For another, it took a Tweet post-announcement for us to even have confirmation that it wasn't just a vanilla S3K emulation.

    Having the Taxman remasters all in one collection was definitely something a lot of us wanted, and hearing someone from Sega actually say the words "Sonic 3" out loud again is nice in itself.... but you gotta admit, the way they presented Sonic Origins didn't make it look very enticing. It's a very "Sega" thing to do, include stock 4:3 footage of a nearly 30-year-old game in an announcement trailer for an expanded port of said game.
     
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  17. Overlord

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    Oh, I dunno - if it's a physical collection - which has never happened before for any of these versions of the game - I'd buy it day 1.
     
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  18. Dark Sonic

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    @Hanging Waters ya I'm a bit disappointed but more because it's only this core group again. That's great and all and the fact that these are the good versions is even better. But what about the weird titles? Where's Chaotix or the Advance games?

    Oh if this game has a physical release I look forward to seeing the box art because like 90% chance it's going to be new classic Sonic art
     
  19. Ayu Tsukimiya

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    I know it's totally unrealistic, but I'd kill to have a mode where these games get updated, Mania-style visuals and unique animated sequences.
     
  20. Sai Start Marker

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    Fantastic. Excellent news! Also very happy about the widescreen confirmation for Sonic 3. I'll be double dipping when they release this. Once on PC digitally, and another for a (hopeful) physical Switch release.

    Now, I just have to hope and pray that they spend the remaining money and resources on giving us amazing extras for these core titles and not use it to bung in redundant MD/MS/GG ROMs that I already have bought a dozen times over. I guess only time will tell.

    Edit: Removing an assumption
     
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