Sonic Hacking Contest 2014 - Entries, Streams, Voting Live!

Discussion in 'Engineering & Reverse Engineering' started by Spanner, Nov 30, 2013.

  1. S0LV0

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    Alright, thanks for clearing it up. Sorry for being paranoid and things like that, this is just my first time submitting to this contest and I have a tendency to make sure everything makes sense to me before I do something to make a fool out of myself and whatnot. (I guess it's too late for that.)

    And I think you misunderstood me. Sonic Generations has very specific limits as far as stages go, with the limits for stage replacements having to be worked around the limited amount of level slots to replace. Therefore, if a project aims to port more than, say, nine new levels into the engine, they do technically have to be split up into separate mods. My question wasn't as nonsensical as it might've seemed.

    edit: As much as I really should be leaving this alone, I just want to say that I'd rather not be reproached simply for asking clarification of rules that I read thoroughly several times. Yes, they are very open-ended, so that means additional questions might be necessary on a case-by-case basis; especially in the context of Sonic Generations, because the same rules cannot be applied in exactly the same context between a 199x 16-bit ROM hack and a 2011 PC game mod. Since the hacking contest has mostly been based around the former this whole time, I think it's perfectly fair to ask that the rules regarding the latter specifically be explored and clarified. Anxiety-fueled questions aside, please don't treat me like I don't know what I'm doing or saying. Thank you.

    edit 2: I really am a ball of paranoia. Regardless of any of this, I hope there are no hard feelings. I don't want to create any tension when there's already enough putting pressure on me. Now, I'm gonna take a nap before I make more of an ass out of myself. See ya guys later, and good luck to everyone.
     
  2. Super Egg

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    Nah, you're fine, I just wanted to make sure you aren't going to be asking questions like...

    "What is the contest's definition of homebrew?"

    See, that we could be discussing for another 4 pages. Like, I've had so many PM's with people about it, that it ain't even funny.

    Because by definition of the rules, a hack has to be built on a preexisting Sonic game. How much percentage of the Sonic game is the question =P

    Best be quiet before Spanner fires me from my seat :ssh:......

    Anyways. As far as the rules go, as far as I am concerned, most seem to apply to most hacks. SADX hacks have been submitted for the past few years, and they seem to play by the same rules as the MD Sonic games, so I assumed that Generations would play just as nice.

    I somewhat understood what you are referring to, but I assumed that even if you had multiple mods, that they needed to be working in tandem with each other, otherwise it wouldn't work to well. So, posting them separately would just be odd. Seems though my dabbling in the hacking of Generations has been just that, dabbling, so I could be wrong and I'll put on my dunce hat and sit in the corner if my presumptions are indeed false.

    Sorry if I made you feel that I was calling you stupid, that wasn't exactly the intended purpose or direction I was headed, but best to apologize anyways.
     
  3. MainMemory

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    Even SADX/SA2 are becoming more like Generations now, we're not packaging modified executable files anymore, it's all mods that can to some extent be mixed and matched however the user wants, especially with my recent additions to the mod API. The AutoDemo levels mod could have been separated into three mods for the three levels it modifes if I were so inclined.
     
  4. Chris Highwind

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    How many of the entries are Genesis hacks, since those are the only ones I can check out during the Community Week this year unless the SADX hacks were hosted someplace else after the contest is over.
     
  5. RetroKoH

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    I'll be starting my first commentary videos on my YouTube channel. I'd like to start with the Mega Drive Hacking Contest entries...

    They won't be of high production value quality since I haven't done this thing much before but I'd love to give the Public ones a run and get some experience doing this. Keep an eye out.

    So that said, I too am looking forward to seeing how many entries are MD/Gen hacks
     
  6. CheatFreak

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    This SHC has me excited. Gonna try to stream all the entries I can with a few friends on my Twitch channel once they are up- (see sig for the link)
    I'll probably make a post here when the stream starts or at least edit this one.

    I can't seem to log into the SHC website though with my forum account here- is it because I'm still a trial member or just a misc. bug?
     
  7. S0LV0

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    Is there a way to delete screenshots for my entry? There are a few that aren't entirely applicable anymore.
     
  8. MainMemory

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    Click and drag it to the trash can that appears in the lower right corner of the window.
     
  9. JansenM

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    What time are the entries going public? I'll try to make the release video thingamy public at the same time as the entry goes up for the hell of it.
     
  10. MainMemory

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    Probably "whenever Cinossu wakes up tomorrow morning", like when new entries stopped being accepted.
     
  11. S0LV0

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    I'm almost ready to finalize my entry, so I hope there's enough time for that.
     
  12. Spanner

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    The update deadline is fast approaching - if your entry is still listed as incomplete after then, your entry will not be a part of the contest and will not be judged.

    In other words, get stuff sorted now. We have a good amount of submissions already, including a big surprise that I'm sure people will like.

    All entries will be available to the public from Monday August 18th as part of the Contest Week.
     
  13. Cinossu

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    Right guys, it's nearly 1am BST here. That means I'm off to bed, and in the morning around 7-8am BST we cut off editing existing entries. Why this time? To cover as many timezones as possible.

    We have had a spectacular turn-out this year, but I'll let the others go into it more. If you have any further editing, you better make it quick! Remember to double-check that your entry is marked Public or Partial-Private, as we won't be accepting any Unfinished entries after the cut-off!

    Time for me to go and upload the final versions entries. Ciao for now. :U
     
  14. JansenM

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    I suppose it doesn't matter a whole lot, but does this mean there's no hope of getting the underscore bug fixed in the entry description?

    Edit: Actually, my release video has an underscore in the ID and won't play after refreshing the page. This may be problematic as I've no time to reupload the video.
     
  15. Cinossu

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    Those of you that have the underscore escape bug, contact me via PM please. I have not had the time to get it fixed, but I can manually edit entries for it in the database directly.
     
  16. Spanner

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    Here are this year's entries.
    1. BakaSonic SHC '14 Demo by Bakayote & Varion Icaria
    2. Big's Fishing Derby by flamewing
    3. Crazy the Hedgehog by Xeta
    4. LSD is bad by Green Snake
    5. Metal Sonic Hyperdrive by LoneDevil
    6. Metal Sonic in Sonic the Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles / Sonic 3 & Metal Sonic by LoneDevil
    7. Mushroom Zone by Dude
    8. Mystic Cave Classic - Sonic Generations Mod (Release 1) by JansenM
    9. Neo Sonic the Hedgehog by Xeta
    10. Project Reiko (Pre-Alpha V2) by Bakayote
    11. Robotnik Returns by Pacguy
    12. SADX AutoDemo Levels by X-Hax
    13. SADX Ghost Mod by MainMemory
    14. Sonic & Knuckles Collection SMPS Player by S&KC SMPS Team
    15. Sonic 1 - Gotta go Fast Edition by VAdaPEGA
    16. Sonic 1 - Hard Bosses Hack - First Public Release by HackGame
    17. Sonic 1 : Back To The Future by AnimeMaster
    18. Sonic 1 Color Contrast by TheInvisibleSun
    19. Sonic 1 FM by Team Valley Bell
    20. Sonic 1: Painto edition 2 by Painto maniak
    21. Sonic 1: Stardust Gear Edition by Stardust Gear
    22. Sonic 2 Adventure Edition: Sonic & Knuckles Demo by MainMemory
    23. Sonic 2: The Rise Of Chaos by ThomasSpeedrunner
    24. Sonic 3 & Knuckles: Pro Survivor by NeoFusionBox
    25. Sonic Adventure Generations by Dude
    26. Sonic and Tails: Double Trouble by FFuser
    27. Sonic Custom Layout by Green Snake
    28. Sonic Generations - Unleashed Project DLC Demo by S0LV0
    29. Sonic Generations - World Adventure Packs by N69 and TiManXD
    30. Sonic Generations - World Adventure Packs - Spagonia Adventure Pack by N69 and TiManXD
    31. Sonic Generations Graphics Overhaul Beta by Smashnic
    32. sonic hard mode by sonic hacker
    33. Sonic Tetris by Crash
    34. Sonic the Hedgehog: Egg on Toast Edition by Team Cinossu
    35. Sonic the Very Useful Engine by VAdaPEGA
    36. Sonic UMZ by TheInvisibleSun
    37. Sonic vs. Camera (PoC) by Green Snake
    38. Sonic: Into The Void by Blueblur93
    39. Sonic: South Island Warped - GHZ Demo by Shockwave
    40. STH2006 Project Demo 3 by brianuuu
    41. Sonic 2 Omochao Edition (Early WIP) by Team Cinossu*
    42. Sonic 3: D.A. Garden Edition by D.A. Garden*

    * = Partial Private Entry

    Remember, all entries aside from the Partial Private Entries will be playable by the public from Monday August 18th.
     
  17. amphobius

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    ..Only two partial private entries? I'm really suprised, honestly! Looks like the contest is easily shaping up to be changing for the better. :)
     
  18. Spanner

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    Contest Week taking place Monday 18th August to Sunday 24th August

    The deadline for entries to be updated is now over. Now, the judges will review all the submitted entries in the contest.

    You may notice there's a wait between the deadline expiring and the public availability of hacks. This is for two reasons. First, this allows the judges a good amount of time (well over a week) to go through the entries, review them and allocate trophies - this generally takes more than a week and in the past nothing has been finalised until the weekend of the Contest Week. Each judge will nominate a entry for whatever trophies they feel deserves it - the trophy is allocated through majority vote. There are measures in place to deal with ties.

    Secondly, one of the biggest features of the Contest Week are the live streams and reviews that will be done by a number of people such as SomeCallMeJohnny, MegaGWolf, Cobanermani456, Geek Critique, Tails' Channel and Sega Retro Channel. Right now, there is a big charity streaming event going on that some people are involved in, which goes into next week as well. To allow the Media Panel to go through the hacks and prepare for reviews and live streams in advance (which some will obviously be recorded and published during the Contest Week), we decided not to have it go on during the charity event, otherwise the Contest Week would have been earlier. There will be other events going on during the week, but these will be announced later on.

    So this should clear up any issues some people have had such as thinking that the entries will now be public when in actual fact they aren't until the 18th.
     
  19. MainMemory

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    I wasn't expecting so many PC game mods, I think I count ten, which makes a quarter of all entries.
     
  20. Pacca

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    I just realized that cinoussu is making a sonic 2 omochao edition. Soon, I'll have to play it through D: