Sonic Generations Megathread

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  1. Herm the Germ

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    And here I thought the buckle-debate died down 10-or-so years ago. :psyduck:

    The earlier sentiment about the Unleashed-style gameplay of this game seeming de-evolved, I can kinda see myself. I couldn't put my finger on it, but, whatever improvements Colors had on the formula seemed to have gone out the window with this from what lil' evidence we got so far. Maybe they'll end up addressing that, too, though.

    Hm, that reminds me -- since it's likely stages from 3D games will crop up, too, does that mean we'll get classic-inspired 2D versions there of? Man. That'd be… weird. Really weird.
     
  2. trakker

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    <!--quoteo(post=579769:date=Apr 20 2011, 02:06 AM:name=Clutch)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clutch @ Apr 20 2011, 02:06 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=579769">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=579652:date=Apr 19 2011, 04:03 PM:name=trakker)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (trakker @ Apr 19 2011, 04:03 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=579652">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Nintendo will have to work fast with Mario if thats true, Since Sonic Generations will be done this year, it could easily be a launch title on Nintendo's new system. it would be embarassing for them if they had another launch without a core Mario game, ala SA2B Vs Luigi's Mansion XD<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    ...Except Sonic Adventure 2 Battle wasn't a launch title and Luigi's Mansion was nothing to be ashamed of.
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    Gamecube, May 3rd, SA2B May 3rd? Or am I being to 'PAL' XD And I wasn't saying Luigi's masion was bad, I was saying it was like letting the backup act launch your system XD

    Anywho, back to rough topic last page, I noticed that uncurling too, and I really hope its triggered as well, de-balling when flying through mid air is a really stupid thing to do, it leads to cheap hits and the inability to carfully bounce some mid air enemies XD

    Which we all know is very satifying!
     
  3. Blue Blood

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    <!--quoteo(post=579890:date=Apr 20 2011, 11:01 AM:name=Herm the Germ)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Herm the Germ @ Apr 20 2011, 11:01 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=579890">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The earlier sentiment about the Unleashed-style gameplay of this game seeming de-evolved, I can kinda see myself. I couldn't put my finger on it, but, whatever improvements Colors had on the formula seemed to have gone out the window with this from what lil' evidence we got so far. Maybe they'll end up addressing that, too, though.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I honestly don't think Colours brought about any improvements to the formula besides Sonic controlling better at low speeds. 3D gameplay in Colours couldn't have been less interesting, and the 2D gameplay was not only used in excess, but it was also very basic and non-Sonicy at all. Going back to the Unleashed HD style and improving on that seems the best option by far.

    <!--quoteo(post=579890:date=Apr 20 2011, 11:01 AM:name=Herm the Germ)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Herm the Germ @ Apr 20 2011, 11:01 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=579890">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hm, that reminds me -- since it's likely stages from 3D games will crop up, too, does that mean we'll get classic-inspired 2D versions there of? Man. That'd be… weird. Really weird.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Probably. And in addition to that, we'll probably get "classicised" music to go along with 2D versions of 3D levels. Remember earlier in the year we heard Tony Harnell was recording a new version of Escape From the City? I'm betting it's for an M.Sonic level in this game.
     
  4. ICEknight

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    <!--quoteo(post=579731:date=Apr 19 2011, 07:17 PM:name=Frozen Nitrogen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Frozen Nitrogen @ Apr 19 2011, 07:17 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=579731">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->On his own, Blackeyes does not make a good game. You'd all do well to stop squeeing that he does. :colbert:<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->He's less annoying and funnier to watch than the usual Sonic we've had since Adventure, though.

    It won't make a game by itself, but it's an improvement over the previous ones, in my oppinion.
     
  5. Lapper

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    I'm still concerned about <a href="http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?act=findpost&pid=579495" target="_blank">this</a> (<<link). Classic Sonic doesn't suit Modern Sonic's voice
     
  6. Zallirog

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    In reference to the 3D classic style stuff, it's pretty much a certainty since they have confirmed the game takes place across the 3 major eras of Sonics past. That undoubtedly means we will be getting some Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 stages for both M.Sonic and C.Sonic and I for one think it's cool. I mean we get to see the what if they had kept 2D style with the Dreamcast games and everything, which, to me is a pretty cool prospect indeed.
     
  7. Aerosol

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    Well, I was talking specifically about the Genesis games. Like I said, I used to backtrack when I was trying desperately to get 50 rings, but I didn't really enjoy doing it. Multiple paths is one thing, straight up backtracking is an entirely different (and annoying!) beast. I'm not sad to see it go in more recent years.
     
  8. MegaDash

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    <!--quoteo(post=579903:date=Apr 20 2011, 07:40 AM:name=Sonica)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sonica @ Apr 20 2011, 07:40 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=579903">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm still concerned about <a href="http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?act=findpost&pid=579495" target="_blank">this</a> (<<link). Classic Sonic doesn't suit Modern Sonic's voice<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    RubyEclipse already confirmed that Classic Sonic will be mute, as per most everyone's suggestions on the subject. See here:http://www.sonicstadium.org/2011/04/classic-sonic-wont-be-saying-a-word-in-sonic-generations/

    I do have one question, besides echoing the questions about C.Sonic's slope factor: judging from what you've seen already, Ruby, how do you gauge the playtime of C.Sonic's GHZ? Did it take you long to beat it? Did it feel like a full, rewarding experience that you don't mind replaying to discover more of?

    My impressions of it so far indicate that it isn't afraid to slow down and give the player a more well-rounded pacing and natural incentive to run around and do some scavenging, but seeing as how all I'm judging are visuals, I could be wrong.
     
  9. ICEknight

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    <!--quoteo(post=579817:date=Apr 19 2011, 11:32 PM:name=MegaDash)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MegaDash @ Apr 19 2011, 11:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=579817">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So, I guess there were never any issues of licensing concerning the use of Sonic 1 music or Oshima's original design after all. Unless SEGA specifically re-obtained the rights for use in this game.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'd like to know who started that stupid rumor.

    Oshima was an employee at SEGA, which means everything he made for them stays with them. It's him who can't use Sonic without SEGA's permission (look at Nack's designer, as an example).
     
  10. roxahris

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    But why does SEGA have to license the music from Dreams Come True?
     
  11. ICEknight

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    <!--quoteo(post=579851:date=Apr 20 2011, 01:40 AM:name=Jack Wallace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jack Wallace @ Apr 20 2011, 01:40 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=579851">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I sincerely have to send my contrats to Sega for keep this info without any visual leaks for so long. Now, please Ruby, the next time, don't forget send a memo to Sega Spain with these lines: "EVERY GAME DISCUSSED INTERNALLY IS SECRET, SO YOU CAN'T DISCUSS IT WITH PRESS AS YOU WERE DISCUSSING THE PLACES YOU VISITED ON HOLYDAYS WITH YOUR FAMILY". Or simply, "This is top secret info".

    Thank you.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->What.

    Why would that be good for us, exactly?



    <!--quoteo(post=579865:date=Apr 20 2011, 02:41 AM:name=TheKazeblade)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheKazeblade @ Apr 20 2011, 02:41 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=579865">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If they're bringing back the insta-spin dash from Adventure, it would be safe to assume that pressing the button again will cause you to uncurl on the ground and in the air.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Exactly what I was going to suggest. That would be a nice addition.
    <!--quoteo(post=579872:date=Apr 20 2011, 03:01 AM:name=TheKazeblade)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheKazeblade @ Apr 20 2011, 03:01 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=579872">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Another option is uncurling if you stop holding down the down button. I can see that being the case as well.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    God, I hope not.


    <!--quoteo(post=579906:date=Apr 20 2011, 07:55 AM:name=MegaDash)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MegaDash @ Apr 20 2011, 07:55 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=579906">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->judging from what you've seen already, Ruby, how do you gauge the playtime of C.Sonic's GHZ? Did it take you long to beat it? Did it feel like a full, rewarding experience that you don't mind replaying to discover more of?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Are you seriously asking that to somebody who works at SEGA? Dude.


    <!--quoteo(post=579908:date=Apr 20 2011, 08:07 AM:name=roxahris)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roxahris @ Apr 20 2011, 08:07 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=579908">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->But why does SEGA have to license the music from Dreams Come True?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    In case they do (does anybody really know?), that would mean they licensed that music in the first place, back in 1991, rather than having Nakamura work as a SEGA employee. Examples include Crazy Taxi, etc.
     
  12. MegaDash

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    <!--quoteo(post=579909:date=Apr 20 2011, 08:11 AM:name=ICEknight)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ICEknight @ Apr 20 2011, 08:11 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=579909">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=579906:date=Apr 20 2011, 07:55 AM:name=MegaDash)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MegaDash @ Apr 20 2011, 07:55 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=579906">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->judging from what you've seen already, Ruby, how do you gauge the playtime of C.Sonic's GHZ? Did it take you long to beat it? Did it feel like a full, rewarding experience that you don't mind replaying to discover more of?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Are you seriously asking that to somebody who works at SEGA? Dude.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    What? Why? Should I be asking someone who works at Nintendo instead? Or perhaps DIMPs?

    Not sure if sarcasm.
     
  13. Blue Blood

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    <!--quoteo(post=579910:date=Apr 20 2011, 01:24 PM:name=MegaDash)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MegaDash @ Apr 20 2011, 01:24 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=579910">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=579909:date=Apr 20 2011, 08:11 AM:name=ICEknight)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ICEknight @ Apr 20 2011, 08:11 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=579909">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=579906:date=Apr 20 2011, 07:55 AM:name=MegaDash)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MegaDash @ Apr 20 2011, 07:55 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=579906">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->judging from what you've seen already, Ruby, how do you gauge the playtime of C.Sonic's GHZ? Did it take you long to beat it? Did it feel like a full, rewarding experience that you don't mind replaying to discover more of?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Are you seriously asking that to somebody who works at SEGA? Dude.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    What? Why? Should I be asking someone who works at Nintendo instead? Or perhaps DIMPs?

    Not sure if sarcasm.
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    How could he possibly answer that? "No, it was an empty experience and I was glad to be shot of if frankly". Yeah... doesn't work. And answering it the other way around would come of as completely biased and unfair. Ruby works for SEGA, and as such he tends to keep his opinion out of the mix and hold an honest (and naturally pro-game) stance. If you want opinions/impressions, you have to talk to the journalists cause that's their job. Ruby's job is to promote the game and act as a bridge the fans and SEGA, which he does mighty well.
     
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    Fair enough. I just wanted to see how he'd answer at least one of those questions anyways. Don't mind me then.

    Can't think of many other questions whose answers won't be the highlight of a future news release.
     
  15. Dark Sonic

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    Only questions I can think of honestly are why the fuck didn't Sonic 4 look, play, or sound anything even like this game, because Rehash Hill Zone would have been a lot easier to stomach if it looked like it did in this game
     
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    Actually there is one thing bothering me.
    GHZ M.Sonic's gameplay seems to be way too automated and basic "run forward". Of course I understand it's first stage and all but Tropical Resort Act 1 had much more to do especially after obtaining wisps. Even Apotos wasn't this simple and automated.
     
  17. trakker

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    <!--quoteo(post=579919:date=Apr 20 2011, 02:00 PM:name=Dark Sonic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Sonic @ Apr 20 2011, 02:00 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=579919">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Only questions I can think of honestly are why the fuck didn't Sonic 4 look, play, or sound anything even like this game, because Rehash Hill Zone would have been a lot easier to stomach if it looked like it did in this game<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I think their "official" reason I think I read was that it was moulded from from what the "fans" said was wrong with Sonic games,

    *whine* Sonics not fast enough.... platforming is too haaaarrrd... I can't hit enemys....

    It was a total board room meeting made game, just looking at figures and votes rather than what people actually wanted. Which is more like this game, Sonic playing pretty much how he did in the 90's
     
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    <!--quoteo(post=579843:date=Apr 20 2011, 01:28 AM:name=Cooljerk)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cooljerk @ Apr 20 2011, 01:28 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=579843">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You know, in the spirit of giving players a choice between old style and new, the game should come with a reversible cover. One featuring modern sonic, with modern sonic style box art, and the other side featuring a cheesy genesis style box art, complete with 90's US style art.


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    Midway did something similar with Mortal Kombat Armageddon. Different box art for the different versions of the game. So something like that would be entirely possible.

    It would be interesting to see if Sega will have Premium/Collector's Editions of Sonic Generations with additional content and perhaps a box set with extra items such as a Music CD or History of Sonic booklet. Ya never know. :)
     
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    <!--quoteo(post=579920:date=Apr 20 2011, 09:03 AM:name=Felik)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Felik @ Apr 20 2011, 09:03 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=579920">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Actually there is one thing bothering me.
    GHZ M.Sonic's gameplay seems to be way too automated and basic "run forward". Of course I understand it's first stage and all but Tropical Resort Act 1 had much more to do especially after going through the game and unlocking more gimmicks. Even Apotos wasn't this simple and automated.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Unfortunately, this game doesn't seem to have unlockable gimmicks. It's too bad that this game is going back to a more a core kind of gameplay, devoid of a gimmick that could never have survived longer than a single game without altering the focus of the series.

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    Sarcasm aside, GHZ, EHZ, and AIZ don't have much else to do but go from left to right either, with a couple options to go backwards along the way (which I'm seeing in these gameplay videos, might I add). Nothing to really worry about.
     
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    <!--quoteo(post=579925:date=Apr 20 2011, 05:30 PM:name=AerosolSP)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AerosolSP @ Apr 20 2011, 05:30 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=579925">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=579920:date=Apr 20 2011, 09:03 AM:name=Felik)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Felik @ Apr 20 2011, 09:03 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=579920">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Actually there is one thing bothering me.
    GHZ M.Sonic's gameplay seems to be way too automated and basic "run forward". Of course I understand it's first stage and all but Tropical Resort Act 1 had much more to do especially after going through the game and unlocking more gimmicks. Even Apotos wasn't this simple and automated.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Unfortunately, this game doesn't seem to have unlockable gimmicks. It's too bad that this game is going back to a more a core kind of gameplay, devoid of a gimmick that could never have survived longer than a single game without altering the focus of the series.

    sadface.jpg

    Sarcasm aside, GHZ, EHZ, and AIZ don't have much else to do but go from left to right either, with a couple options to go backwards along the way (which I'm seeing in these gameplay videos, might I add). Nothing to really worry about.
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    Good job at completely missing the point.
    Maybe if you read all of my post you would understand what I was talking about.
    I was referring to M.Sonic's gameplay (And you are referring to classic 1st zones? Really? REALLY???). And I say that even though Day Apotos and Tropical Resort Act 1 were pretty automated they were automated not to such an extreme degree.
     
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