Sonic Generations Megathread

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  1. MykonosFan

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    <!--quoteo(post=598694:date=Jun 23 2011, 09:41 PM:name=Cooljerk)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cooljerk @ Jun 23 2011, 09:41 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=598694">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=598667:date=Jun 23 2011, 04:48 PM:name=Drex)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Drex @ Jun 23 2011, 04:48 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=598667">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->3. Looking up and down serves no purpose. (but did it ever really serve one in the first place?)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Chemical Plant Zone boss. Look down when he throws the megamack on you.
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    That's a much better example, but I personally find it quite useful in Marble Zone as well so I don't suffer from the falling spike platforms.

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I wonder how the battle with Silver will be. Hopefully it won't go into an infinite loop of "ITS NO USE. TAKE THIS!"<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I kind of want him to at least say it once, just for the hell of it. Maybe even a "LET'S CLEAN UP THIS TRASH!" because that's quite an underappreciated line.

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->What do guys want to see for DLC? Lava Reef? Quartz Quadrant? Sky Deck?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    yes yes and yes

    Honestly at least one extra zone for each era would please me. Maybe get a Sonic 3 stage, Lost World/SA2 Space Stage (I know everyone hates space, but for the variety of it), and another Colors level since there is no HD equivalent of Colors. I'd actually take a CD level over a Sonic 3 level but I feel like the best we could hope for is the Metal Sonic fight being in Stardust Speedway.

    A really vague hope of mine is for DLC characters. I'm not generally one to care too much either way when it comes to this, but I would almost accept simple model swaps for characters like Tails, Knuckles, Blaze, Shadow, etc. It'd just be nice.
     
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    <!--quoteo(post=598668:date=Jun 24 2011, 01:49 AM:name=evilhamwizard)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (evilhamwizard @ Jun 24 2011, 01:49 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=598668">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Two more things.

    One there will be NPCs, which I think was mentioned before. These NPCs give you missions to do. Here are the different kinds of missions you can find in the game:

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    1. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-- "Default"&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;// 特に条件がない場合
    2. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-- "CollectRing"&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;リング数&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;// 指定数リングを取得
    3. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-- "VsGhost"&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;// ゴースト対決
    4. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-- "BoostMax"&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ブースト倍率&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;// ブースト全開
    5. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-- "RescueAnimals"&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;動物数&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;// 指定数動物解放
    6. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-- "NpcRace"&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;// NPCとレース
    7. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-- "CollectTreasure"&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;お宝数&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;// 宝探し(ナックルズ ssz200)
    8. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-- "CollectChao"&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;チャオ数&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;// チャオ集め(クリーム sph100)
    9. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-- "TimeLimit"&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;制限時間(秒)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;// 時間制限
    10. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-- "NoMiss"&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;// ノーミス
    11. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-- "MakeTricks"&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;トリック数&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;// 規定回数トリックを決める
    12. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-- "LiftingBoard"&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;// リフティング看板
    So far anyway. The NPCs wont be human like, it'll have Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Vector, Espio, etc etc.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That's a relief. For awhile I was afraid Elise would show her ugly mug.
     
  3. Skaarg

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    I will say the level list does disappoint me a bit. Not a single ice level or Sonic CD. I was hoping the S3K level (since now it is one game...) would be Hydrocity Zone or Lava Reef Zone. Well hopefully the DLC is cheap... Elemental shields being back does please me though. I hope they are in every classic sonic level.
     
  4. nineko

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    <!--quoteo(post=598651:date=Jun 24 2011, 02:10 AM:name=Mykonos)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mykonos @ Jun 24 2011, 02:10 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=598651">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Boy, what I wouldn't give for a peek into the Tech Lounge right now.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Believe me or not, there's nothing about Sonic Generations in the Tech Lounge at all.
     
  5. Nora Kisaragi

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    This game covers more than just city tropes, guys.

    If you're going to make the argument that just because a level takes place in a city it makes it a city trope, I would kindly point you towards Sonic World Adventure, where 80% of the levels were "City tropes", just in different locations. Mazuri felt like a jungle, empire city felt like that aerial level, etc. etc.

    Let's look at the tropes in this game.

    Green Hill (Sonic 1): Hill/valley trope
    Chemical Plant (Sonic 2): Under Water/interior base trope
    Sky Sanctuary (S3&K): Aerial trope
    Speed Highway (SA1): Highway trope / City if Area 3 is in it (Highway levels alone don't count as cities. the Adventure series is full of these.)
    City Escape (SA2): City trope
    Seaside Hill (Heroes): Sea level trope
    Crisis City (2006): Fire level trope. Seriously guys. You're going to be seeing fire, fire, and more fire. And tornados.
    Rooftop Run (Unleashed): City trope
    Planet Wisp (Colors): Exterior base trope

    Death Egg (Just the boss or the level I wonder?): Spaaaaceee!

    Okay, so we got two city tropes. So what? -shrug-. also, no ice level? I am disappoint, but once again, unleashed didn't have a fire level either IIRC. (eggmanland and the final boss shouldn't really count as level tropes..)
    Once again, I'll point you to the absurd amount of city levels in world adventure, which this game seems to be working with.

    Hmm...also, I noticed something fishy.
    I'm not seeing the "Hedgehog Engine!" Logo when the demo boots up. Whut? This game isn't using the hedgehog engine?
     
  6. Chimpo

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    That was an intentional design of Unleashed. To take real life locations and turn them onto Sonic levels.

    The same argument cannot be made for Generations.

    There's hardly a real fire level. Crisis City doesn't count.
     
  7. Seeing this huge leak of info and actually getting to play the game for the first time has gotten me very excited. A tad disappointed Sonic CD isn't getting its own stage, but hopefully the boss fight with Metal Sonic will have Stardust Speedway as the level in which you fight him, so we get a little taste of Sonic CD. Oh, Sky Sanctuary is going to be fucking glorious.
     
  8. XCubed

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    That music brings oh so happy tears to my eyes. My partner will KILL me when I get that PS3 or X360. I love reinterpretations of songs, I thrive off it. It's great seeing unused music being put to use, but no "# 10 Hidden Palace"? I am dissapoint. I love that the menu music from Sonic Heroes is back and better than ever (but missing that interlude in the released version). Good for Nakamura getting off his duff for the classic music though. Do you realize that this is the first game to bring back the original title screen theme since 1992?! (With the exception of Sonic Advance 1 and 2's contributions).

    Whose house do I have to raid to play this demo?
     
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    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Lava Reef? Quartz Quadrant? Sky Deck?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, yes, and yes.

    Sky Deck would fit the modern sonic formula so well and would make for an intriguing classic sonic stage, with the alternating altitudes, gravity shifting, etc.

    Lava Reef would be amazing. It was such a varied level and would allow for a pretty nice boss recreation of the Sonic 3 Hidden Palace. Hydrocity would also be a spectacular sight.

    QQ I'm feeling but as much as I'm mortified about the city level overage I'd still probably prefer to see Stardust Speedway.

    I kept kindof half-expecting them to target us hardcore fans directly and surprise attack us with a recreation of Sonic 2 HPZ.
     
  10. Quarterman

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    I'm most excited to see Sky Sanctuary thus far. Personally, I wanted to see Scrap Brain and Ice Cap, but perhaps we'll see them as DLC.
     
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    <!--quoteo(post=598723:date=Jun 23 2011, 08:44 PM:name=Quarterman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Quarterman @ Jun 23 2011, 08:44 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=598723">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm most excited to see Sky Sanctuary thus far. Personally, I wanted to see Scrap Brain and Ice Cap, but perhaps we'll see them as DLC.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    lol we already got both of those :eng101:

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    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Green Hill (Sonic 1): Tropical trope
    Chemical Plant (Sonic 2): City Trope
    Sky Sanctuary (S3&K): Ruin trope
    Speed Highway (SA1): City trope
    City Escape (SA2): City trope
    Seaside Hill (Heroes): Tropical trope
    Crisis City (2006): City trope after 2012
    Rooftop Run (Unleashed): City trope
    Planet Wisp (Colors): Exterior base trope

    Death Egg (Just the boss or the level I wonder?): Spaaaaceee!</span><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    No offense bro, but its not really the levels content, even though yeah, you can really justify that there are definitely different types of levels and thats why the game will still be fun. Its just the lack of variety in level assets. I would not be surprised if we see alot of assets from City Escape reused in <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Speed Highway</span>, <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Crisis City</span>, and <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Chemical Plant</span>. We'll also likely see set pieces reused for the <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>final fight with Perfect Chaos</span>, etc.

    Its probably a smart move from the development time\cost perspective but for me it comes off as kindof halfassed.
     
  12. Shade

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    Eggmanland was a Sonic CD level, duh.

    Anyway, with the leaked level list, my excitement has instantly dropped to zero. Think I'll just stick to watching youtube videos of <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Chemical Plant</span> and <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Sky Sanctuary</span>. Extremely disappointing.

    My guess is we get a DLC level or two, while the rest were saved to sell more copies of the 3DS version. Fuck this generation (pun optional).
     
  13. Endri

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    My biggest concern is, however: Has Aaron Webber pronounced himself about this whole matter yet?
     
  14. ashthedragon

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    In those sound effects rips, you can hear the tornado, knuckles punchings, gliding and digging, the emerald's radar ( for knuckles maybe?), some sort of roars who might be for biolizard or for the new time eater monster-of-the-week, some birds chirp ( flickys?), monkey sounds ( again, little animals?), and lots of robot sounds.Also,modern sonic's YEAH, HERE WE GO, WOHOO, BRING IT ON and so.
     
  15. Aquaslash

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    oh! Speaking of, those SFX tell us some things about Super Sonic
    <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>

    [*]He has Light Attack
    [*]He has an ability called "Atomic Spin"
    [*]He has some kind of "combination" ability
    </span>

    Wanna see how that all goes.

    EDIT: ITT: LIST TAG DOESN'T LIKE SPOILER TAG
     
  16. Chimpo

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    Don't post in this thread if your complaints are nothing more than bullshit speculation.
     
  17. Chimera

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    There's a chance this "Atomic Spin" could be Classic Sonic's version of "Light Attack."

    Also, thanks to Scarred Sun, it's been confirmed the second "Red Sonic" has Eggman's name written on it. Literally (in some odd form of Japanese).

    [​IMG]

    EDIT: By second I mean closest to the bottom.

    EDIT 2: Might as well give a full translation for those who don't Japanese.

    From top to bottom, going from left to right... Shadow, Classic, Modern, Modern Tails, Knuckles, Vector, Amy, Cream, Blaze, and Eggman.
     
  18. Endri

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    This is relevant to the image above:

    Code (Text):
    1. SonicBlueBlur.exe
    2.  
    3. Root
    4.  
    5. PtmSpike
    6. PtmRocket
    7. EndlessBoost
    8. SpeedTrick
    9. MaxGaugeRestart
    10. AutoGaugeUp
    11. HomingCancel
    12. BoostGaugeUp
    13. RingEnergyBonus
    14. BrakeEnergyBonus
    15. StartAccel
    16. QuickSlide
    17. PowerStomping
    18. DirectJump
    19. SpeedUp
    20. RocketStart
    21. PreciousTime
    22. SkateBoard
    23. LongDiver
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    25. TreasureSearch
    26. LongSpinDash
    27. HighSpeed
    28. Barrier
    29. UnbeatenStart
    30. DoubleSpinAttack
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    32. AquaBarrier
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    34. SuperSonic
    35. AllRounder
    36. LongLifeRing
    37. HighGrip
    38. LastChance
    39. SafeRestart
    40. DownCancel
    41. PowerBrake
    42. LightSpeedDash
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    48. BigChaser
    49. EggBeetle
    50. EggLancer
    51. EggRaybird
    Variables contained in the main game executable, upon uncompressing and decrypting. The game executable goes from a small 7MB to a whooping 30MB!
     
  19. Chaos Rush

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    <!--quoteo(post=598771:date=Jun 23 2011, 08:55 PM:name=Chimera)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chimera @ Jun 23 2011, 08:55 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=598771">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Also, thanks to Scarred Sun, it's been confirmed the second "Red Sonic" has Eggman's name written on it. Literally (in some odd form of Japanese).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's called Hiragana, which is actually "regular" Japanese. The other form you see in all those names is Katakana, and that's because in Japanese writing, Katakana is used for foreign words. Because names like Sonic, and Shadow are not actual Japanese words, they're written in Katakana.

    But I have no idea why Eggman is written in Hiragana, as it's always been written in Katakana before O_o


    EDIT: Oh ya guys. I hope no one has beat me to this, as I'm not checking. Speed Highway had Chao in Space 1 posters. City Escape had Chao in Space 2 posters. Crisis City had Chao in Space 3 posters. Speed Highway, City Escape, and Crisis City just happen to be the stages included in this game...
     
  20. MKAmeX

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    For those of you who don't have Gold accounts, just sign out of your account, and go to 'join xbox live' and select 'I don't want to buy Live right now' or whatever option it says (I'm sure you can figure it out =P), they will give you a free month of Gold for your trial. It's what I did.

    Although Sonic feels a bit heavy, and the spindash is way overpowered, I'm in love with this demo.


    Also if <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Time Eater turns out to be the big monster guy from the sonic 1 concept art</span>, that would be the ultimate throw back, wouldn't it? =P
     
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