Sonic Classic Heroes

Whoops. I guess you can disregard what I said then.

 

That makes Sonic look like he has a mullet, something very common in Super Sonic fan sprites, and something I really don't like.

The icon in Sonic 3 & Knuckles looked better:

 

I've just made this one using 12 colors, based on both Sonic 2's and Sonic 3K's icons, trying to alter the graphics the less I could while maintaining the Sonic 2 style:

 

Downloading. Fun little tweak, if easy and possible, would be that instead of 3xSonic earning the most rings it could be 3xthe current leader. So if you're Knuckles and you get 3xSonic you only get 25 rings.

You know, if that's already exactly what it does, ignore me. I can't remember such details.

I like both Gsuki's and ICEknight's SuperSonic icons.



Aww no more Oil Ocean speed bug. I enjoyed that one. I hope you don't change the spin-dash-jump-straight-up bug... I always thought that was pretty cool to pull off.

 

I don't know if this has been already reported or not, but if you end the game with the super team, and you see the cutscene, Knuckles does not appear when they're flying down the Death Egg therefore he doesn't land on the plane, but he does appear later when the plane is panning off screen and then he jumps with Sonic and Tails.

 

I just fixed this. Sorry about that.

 

Shucks. I liked how that spin-dash thing was kind of an emergency abort if you suddenly saw you were about to launch yourself into danger... if you could pull it off. My cousin was much better at that than I; we never really saw it as a bug. Doh well.

While the topic is still recent, my personal preference is for the Sonic 2 jackpot icons over Sonic 3's.

Bugs/things:
· The 1-up icon (in the monitor) has gone back to only ever showing the game leader (not current leader) again.
· Tails can use the jackpot machine forever by flying back in. Not a bug, just an in-game expoit. However a slight bug when you do this is that the camera doesn't lift itself enough to show the roulette wheels if he flies in from below.
(Interesting result with the jackpot wheel: 3xRobotnik, 3xRobotnik, 3xRobotnik, Knuckles-Robotnik-Knuckles (still got the spikes), 3x Robotnik. Five sets of spikes in a row!)
· Buzz Bombers still shooting fire that all shields reflect instead of the fire shield absorbing (I mention it again because I think you were going to change that but forgot). There aren't any fire shields in EHZ anyway, are there?

· I see that when characters are switched, their layer is cycled through the 3 of them. What about if instead of cycling, it sets the new leader to the front layer but leaves the other two as they were. Probably another thing not worth the time; I only mention it because of this:




In the second image the player has switched to Tails, but the most prominent thing on screen was Knuckles popping up on top of Sonic. Totally minor not-even-a-nitpick, I know. Like the jackpot suggestion, I doubt it's worth the time because the minor confusion it can create is super uncommon anyway. Good work with Tails' tails btw.

· Got stuck in Casino Night Zone:



By holding right, Knuckles would stay stuck there. If I released right he would simply drop back to the plunger, but there was no way out. I had to timeout. Speaking of...

· Time over digits graphic glitch still happening on occasion:




Super minor queries:
· Any chance of work on the Knuckles sprite when Tails is carrying all 3?
· Colours on rings around character icons. Just being pedantic here.
· Possible to remove the pink from the "TIME/GAME OVER" text?

Non-technical controls thoughts:
( I know you're focusing on just cleaning it up for the contest, but nonetheless here are my thoughts )
· Have you considered Knuckles carrying the others, exactly the same way as Tails does, but in his fists when he glides? The good news is that you already have the rotate-while-hanging sprites for it. When he hits a wall, the bottom character (if also against the wall) could lift his feet and put them on the wall (again, Sandopolis sprites) and perhaps they could all slowly drift downwards; Knuckles still in gliding animation. Perhaps even little tufts of smoke coming from the bottom character's feet sliding down the wall.
Then if the bottom character goes lower than the wall's lowest point (ie, the bottom character is now beneath an overhang - see pic), he could let his feet drop to the normal frame and Knuckles' descent would accelerate.
Pic:



· Knuckles again; any thoughts on letting him glide again after exiting a glide. You know, while he's in that exclusive falling animation. Yes it appears I have embraced the extra-accessible glide/fly moves.

· I like that you've played it safe with your peel-out execution, but are you considering other executions in the future? There have been a handful of different peel-out methods over the years. Just wondering about your thoughts on that one too. One more thing, what about using the Sonic CD sound effect on it? Separating it from the spin-dash audibly would avoid that shoe-in hack feel. I'm guessing you've already thought of that though.

· Do you think you'll eventually disable up+jump=spin dash for T&K?


Anyway, many pointless notes and comments based on personal taste, I know. Thanks for the read.

 

My Casino Night slot machine results were a lot like Deef's. I think those things are now rigged to make you almost always lose. I got two Knuckleses and a Robotnik (and later two Robotniks and a Knuckles) and still got the spikes, and then way later on (after exactly 2 wins out of 14 losses, not counting getting spiked or when you only get two rings for something) I got 2 Sonics and a Jackpot and the game froze me in place, forcing me to get a time over - right when I was about to quit gambling at just after 9 minutes in, too.

 

Hmm I just thought it might be dumb luck but perhaps there's something in it.

· Just now, playing with Supers cheat on, I started a Sonic leader game as usual, switched to (Super)Tails while playing, and came across a 1-up with SuperKnuckles on it.

· Probably already noted, but when Tails carries the others in Sky Chase it's glitchy. They jitter and fall off.

· Is it possible to make it so that, when hit and dropping rings, the other character can't collect your lost rings until the lead character can (after the forced delay that's built in)?

 

Shame to hear that about Knuckles carrying the others.

I think the Sonic CD sound for the peel-out would be good, if you can think of a way around the fact that it went with a non-button-mashing peel out.

I know I tend to dwell on the details more than some, so all the replies are much appreciated.

 

Two things:

1. Shouldn't the background of the Knuckles signpost be green?

2. Maybe it'd be cool if you made the roulette work like it does in Sonic Heroes, as in the more characters that go in the greater the multiplier. So if Sonic and Tails are in the slot at the same time they'd win like 60 rings instead of 30, and if all three were in they'd win 90 rings instead of 30.