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  1. Jayextee

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    <!--quoteo(post=368725:date=Nov 2 2009, 03:21 AM:name=Jayextee)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jayextee @ Nov 2 2009, 03:21 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368725">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368719:date=Nov 2 2009, 03:08 AM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 2 2009, 03:08 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368719">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm irritated by the fact that this game was praise as the ultimate hack but that didn't truly affect the experience of the game because I didn't believe the hype.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Oh, welcome to everything that's ever been 'sold' to me. Learn to ignore it, approach everything with an open mind. Your life would be richer.
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    It's sad that I have to quote myself. But it's worth taking heed. :eng101:
     
  2. Epsilonsama

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    <!--quoteo(post=368731:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:26 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:26 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368731">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368727:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:23 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368727">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368723:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:16 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368723">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368719:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:08 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368719">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368717:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:58 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 10:58 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368717">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368712:date=Nov 1 2009, 09:39 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 09:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368712">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368710:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:24 PM:name=iojnekns)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iojnekns @ Nov 1 2009, 10:24 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368710">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Look, I don't care if you bash it. You can bash it all you want. Just don't expect us to do what you want us to do and don't expect to take into account what you say. We might, but thats our perogative. I'm reacting because if the reason why you are being so outspoken and, saying stuff like "I finally got to play the best hack ever" in a sarcastic fashion is because the game was hyped up, yet we had nothing to do with the hype! How am I supposed to react? We're being treated in a certain way for something we had no control over whatsoever! I never once denied that it was hyped, but shag the vicar! We're really sorry if you let hype control your expectations but unlike 1's and 0's or pixels, thats one of the things we can't control. I'm not reacting becaue you're "bashing." That would be absurd. I asked for your opinions, I was fully expecting some less than impressed ones. For the record, I don't think any of you are dicks (or any other colourful word) simply for stating your views.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    First of, yes the first line was a bit sarcastic but this was the fastest way I could sum up my reaction to this game, for me I didn't believe the hype but still was irritated by the hype it had, and I had said that I'm not blaming you for the hype, but still this game was hyped and still even if the game wasn't hyped everything good or bad I say wasn't influence by the hype because I had no expectation, I played the hack with an open mind.
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    If the hype had not affected your expectations, game play or feelings for the game then why have such hate for the hype, it did no wrong to your experience?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'm irritated by the fact that this game was praise as the ultimate hack but that didn't truly affect the experience of the game because I didn't believe the hype.

    Like I said I had an open mind about this hack and I played it from start to finish and never did they hype it had affect my perception of this hack.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You say this but it seems as though the hype brought upon this hack has affected your view in a negative way. I could understand if you didn't listen to the hype but just played the hack for pure enjoyment of sonic hacks but it seems you went into playing this to disprove the hype in a sense. "I'm irritated by the fact that this game was praise as the ultimate hack but that didn't truly affect the experience of the game because I didn't believe the hype." By saying this it seems as though if you had believed the hype you would have enjoyed the game more but because you didn't believe it you perceived the hack in a more negative way rather then enjoying because of the hype, although hype for anything means nothing, as well as others' opinions for everyone has a different opinion. Overall it just seems as though you're saying you would have enjoyed the hack more had there been no hype at all because you wouldn't be expecting something amazing and/or not expecting something great and that others' beliefs on the subject were false.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Nope, Let say there wasn't any hype what so ever, if that were the case would I enjoyed the hack more, I don't know but the problems I have with this hack would be the same because the problems this hack is not determined by the hype the hack had.
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    Then why care about the hype?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Because I hate hype in general.
     
  3. Malevolence

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    <!--quoteo(post=368734:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:32 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368734">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368731:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:26 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:26 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368731">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368727:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:23 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368727">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368723:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:16 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368723">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368719:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:08 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368719">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368717:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:58 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 10:58 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368717">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368712:date=Nov 1 2009, 09:39 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 09:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368712">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368710:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:24 PM:name=iojnekns)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iojnekns @ Nov 1 2009, 10:24 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368710">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Look, I don't care if you bash it. You can bash it all you want. Just don't expect us to do what you want us to do and don't expect to take into account what you say. We might, but thats our perogative. I'm reacting because if the reason why you are being so outspoken and, saying stuff like "I finally got to play the best hack ever" in a sarcastic fashion is because the game was hyped up, yet we had nothing to do with the hype! How am I supposed to react? We're being treated in a certain way for something we had no control over whatsoever! I never once denied that it was hyped, but shag the vicar! We're really sorry if you let hype control your expectations but unlike 1's and 0's or pixels, thats one of the things we can't control. I'm not reacting becaue you're "bashing." That would be absurd. I asked for your opinions, I was fully expecting some less than impressed ones. For the record, I don't think any of you are dicks (or any other colourful word) simply for stating your views.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    First of, yes the first line was a bit sarcastic but this was the fastest way I could sum up my reaction to this game, for me I didn't believe the hype but still was irritated by the hype it had, and I had said that I'm not blaming you for the hype, but still this game was hyped and still even if the game wasn't hyped everything good or bad I say wasn't influence by the hype because I had no expectation, I played the hack with an open mind.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If the hype had not affected your expectations, game play or feelings for the game then why have such hate for the hype, it did no wrong to your experience?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'm irritated by the fact that this game was praise as the ultimate hack but that didn't truly affect the experience of the game because I didn't believe the hype.

    Like I said I had an open mind about this hack and I played it from start to finish and never did they hype it had affect my perception of this hack.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You say this but it seems as though the hype brought upon this hack has affected your view in a negative way. I could understand if you didn't listen to the hype but just played the hack for pure enjoyment of sonic hacks but it seems you went into playing this to disprove the hype in a sense. "I'm irritated by the fact that this game was praise as the ultimate hack but that didn't truly affect the experience of the game because I didn't believe the hype." By saying this it seems as though if you had believed the hype you would have enjoyed the game more but because you didn't believe it you perceived the hack in a more negative way rather then enjoying because of the hype, although hype for anything means nothing, as well as others' opinions for everyone has a different opinion. Overall it just seems as though you're saying you would have enjoyed the hack more had there been no hype at all because you wouldn't be expecting something amazing and/or not expecting something great and that others' beliefs on the subject were false.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Nope, Let say there wasn't any hype what so ever, if that were the case would I enjoyed the hack more, I don't know but the problems I have with this hack would be the same because the problems this hack is not determined by the hype the hack had.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Then why care about the hype?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Because I hate hype in general.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    And therefore to hate something which has no effect to this game at all will seemingly influence your overview of it.
     
  4. Travelsonic

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    <!--quoteo(post=368729:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:24 PM:name=iojnekns)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iojnekns @ Nov 1 2009, 10:24 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368729">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->There is a difference you seem to be missing between amping up the difficulty and creating broken enemies.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You think we INTENTIONALLY put that behaviour in? This hack was released due to pressure from the hacking contest. It is not *finished.*
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Having an enemy that is hard to hit unless you use certain moves, shoots out enemies for you to fight, is fast/evasive, and/or has protection that needs to be broken first - those are great ideas, and combined into one uber boss can be quite fun. That's why I like the first boss in this hack, because you balanced that out quite well.


    Having an enemy who can push you off screen and make it so you can't move at all [as in boxing you in] despite your trying to escape through all means possible resulting in your players death, or enemies who home in and pommel you to death with no means to escape / defend yourself are - simply put - broken.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Let me say this again, this time in bold. This hack was released due to pressure from the hacking contest. It is not *finished*. Gorbichev insta-kills you sometimes. Traps you in a corner or drives you out of the screen lock. We didn't have time to fix it, because some people, YOU AMONG THEM, were commenting on the fact that the contest was creating a fervour regarding the hack, but no-one could play it. Is this what you've spent the last page of the thread going on about? Because I've said it in nearly every single post. Other people have grasped it easily! Why on earth would we deliberately do that? Do you think that despite achieving what we have technically, we need you to point out to us that there are broken and buggy bits? That we thought "lets have some insta-killing, thats really good design and will be lots of fun to play? YOU wanted to play in the condition that won the contest. This is the condition it was in.

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    Gotchya. I know you guys wanted to go for extra difficult, but I really did want to make sure you didn't go off the deep end.
     
  5. Epsilonsama

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    <!--quoteo(post=368735:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:36 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368735">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368734:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:32 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368734">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368731:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:26 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:26 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368731">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368727:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:23 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368727">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368723:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:16 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368723">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368719:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:08 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368719">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368717:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:58 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 10:58 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368717">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368712:date=Nov 1 2009, 09:39 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 09:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368712">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368710:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:24 PM:name=iojnekns)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iojnekns @ Nov 1 2009, 10:24 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368710">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Look, I don't care if you bash it. You can bash it all you want. Just don't expect us to do what you want us to do and don't expect to take into account what you say. We might, but thats our perogative. I'm reacting because if the reason why you are being so outspoken and, saying stuff like "I finally got to play the best hack ever" in a sarcastic fashion is because the game was hyped up, yet we had nothing to do with the hype! How am I supposed to react? We're being treated in a certain way for something we had no control over whatsoever! I never once denied that it was hyped, but shag the vicar! We're really sorry if you let hype control your expectations but unlike 1's and 0's or pixels, thats one of the things we can't control. I'm not reacting becaue you're "bashing." That would be absurd. I asked for your opinions, I was fully expecting some less than impressed ones. For the record, I don't think any of you are dicks (or any other colourful word) simply for stating your views.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    First of, yes the first line was a bit sarcastic but this was the fastest way I could sum up my reaction to this game, for me I didn't believe the hype but still was irritated by the hype it had, and I had said that I'm not blaming you for the hype, but still this game was hyped and still even if the game wasn't hyped everything good or bad I say wasn't influence by the hype because I had no expectation, I played the hack with an open mind.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If the hype had not affected your expectations, game play or feelings for the game then why have such hate for the hype, it did no wrong to your experience?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'm irritated by the fact that this game was praise as the ultimate hack but that didn't truly affect the experience of the game because I didn't believe the hype.

    Like I said I had an open mind about this hack and I played it from start to finish and never did they hype it had affect my perception of this hack.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You say this but it seems as though the hype brought upon this hack has affected your view in a negative way. I could understand if you didn't listen to the hype but just played the hack for pure enjoyment of sonic hacks but it seems you went into playing this to disprove the hype in a sense. "I'm irritated by the fact that this game was praise as the ultimate hack but that didn't truly affect the experience of the game because I didn't believe the hype." By saying this it seems as though if you had believed the hype you would have enjoyed the game more but because you didn't believe it you perceived the hack in a more negative way rather then enjoying because of the hype, although hype for anything means nothing, as well as others' opinions for everyone has a different opinion. Overall it just seems as though you're saying you would have enjoyed the hack more had there been no hype at all because you wouldn't be expecting something amazing and/or not expecting something great and that others' beliefs on the subject were false.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Nope, Let say there wasn't any hype what so ever, if that were the case would I enjoyed the hack more, I don't know but the problems I have with this hack would be the same because the problems this hack is not determined by the hype the hack had.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Then why care about the hype?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Because I hate hype in general.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    And therefore to hate something which has no effect to this game at all will seemingly influence your overview of it.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Nope because the things I didnt like about this hack are things that no hype could affect, and keep in mind there isn't a lot I really hate, I believe most of the things I hate will be fixed eventually or at least Gorbichev, because from what I read he was incomplete.
     
  6. Malevolence

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    <!--quoteo(post=368738:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:39 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368738">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368735:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:36 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368735">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368734:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:32 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368734">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368731:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:26 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:26 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368731">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368727:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:23 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368727">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368723:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:16 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368723">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368719:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:08 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368719">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368717:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:58 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 10:58 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368717">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368712:date=Nov 1 2009, 09:39 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 09:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368712">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368710:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:24 PM:name=iojnekns)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iojnekns @ Nov 1 2009, 10:24 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368710">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Look, I don't care if you bash it. You can bash it all you want. Just don't expect us to do what you want us to do and don't expect to take into account what you say. We might, but thats our perogative. I'm reacting because if the reason why you are being so outspoken and, saying stuff like "I finally got to play the best hack ever" in a sarcastic fashion is because the game was hyped up, yet we had nothing to do with the hype! How am I supposed to react? We're being treated in a certain way for something we had no control over whatsoever! I never once denied that it was hyped, but shag the vicar! We're really sorry if you let hype control your expectations but unlike 1's and 0's or pixels, thats one of the things we can't control. I'm not reacting becaue you're "bashing." That would be absurd. I asked for your opinions, I was fully expecting some less than impressed ones. For the record, I don't think any of you are dicks (or any other colourful word) simply for stating your views.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    First of, yes the first line was a bit sarcastic but this was the fastest way I could sum up my reaction to this game, for me I didn't believe the hype but still was irritated by the hype it had, and I had said that I'm not blaming you for the hype, but still this game was hyped and still even if the game wasn't hyped everything good or bad I say wasn't influence by the hype because I had no expectation, I played the hack with an open mind.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If the hype had not affected your expectations, game play or feelings for the game then why have such hate for the hype, it did no wrong to your experience?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'm irritated by the fact that this game was praise as the ultimate hack but that didn't truly affect the experience of the game because I didn't believe the hype.

    Like I said I had an open mind about this hack and I played it from start to finish and never did they hype it had affect my perception of this hack.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You say this but it seems as though the hype brought upon this hack has affected your view in a negative way. I could understand if you didn't listen to the hype but just played the hack for pure enjoyment of sonic hacks but it seems you went into playing this to disprove the hype in a sense. "I'm irritated by the fact that this game was praise as the ultimate hack but that didn't truly affect the experience of the game because I didn't believe the hype." By saying this it seems as though if you had believed the hype you would have enjoyed the game more but because you didn't believe it you perceived the hack in a more negative way rather then enjoying because of the hype, although hype for anything means nothing, as well as others' opinions for everyone has a different opinion. Overall it just seems as though you're saying you would have enjoyed the hack more had there been no hype at all because you wouldn't be expecting something amazing and/or not expecting something great and that others' beliefs on the subject were false.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Nope, Let say there wasn't any hype what so ever, if that were the case would I enjoyed the hack more, I don't know but the problems I have with this hack would be the same because the problems this hack is not determined by the hype the hack had.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Then why care about the hype?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Because I hate hype in general.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    And therefore to hate something which has no effect to this game at all will seemingly influence your overview of it.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Nope because the things I didnt like about this hack are things that no hype could affect, and keep in mind there isn't a lot I really hate, I believe most of the things I hate will be fixed eventually or at least Gorbichev, because from what I read he was incomplete.
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    I understand this but you seem to come in here stating a feeling of anger due to hype and not the game. If I were to quote you from a previous statement you did say "First of, yes the first line was a bit sarcastic but this was the fastest way I could sum up my reaction to this game, for me I didn't believe the hype but still was irritated by the hype it had"
     
  7. Epsilonsama

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    <!--quoteo(post=368740:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:41 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:41 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368740">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368738:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:39 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368738">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368735:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:36 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368735">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368734:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:32 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368734">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368731:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:26 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:26 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368731">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368727:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:23 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368727">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368723:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:16 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368723">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368719:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:08 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368719">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368717:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:58 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 10:58 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368717">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368712:date=Nov 1 2009, 09:39 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 09:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368712">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368710:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:24 PM:name=iojnekns)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iojnekns @ Nov 1 2009, 10:24 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368710">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Look, I don't care if you bash it. You can bash it all you want. Just don't expect us to do what you want us to do and don't expect to take into account what you say. We might, but thats our perogative. I'm reacting because if the reason why you are being so outspoken and, saying stuff like "I finally got to play the best hack ever" in a sarcastic fashion is because the game was hyped up, yet we had nothing to do with the hype! How am I supposed to react? We're being treated in a certain way for something we had no control over whatsoever! I never once denied that it was hyped, but shag the vicar! We're really sorry if you let hype control your expectations but unlike 1's and 0's or pixels, thats one of the things we can't control. I'm not reacting becaue you're "bashing." That would be absurd. I asked for your opinions, I was fully expecting some less than impressed ones. For the record, I don't think any of you are dicks (or any other colourful word) simply for stating your views.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    First of, yes the first line was a bit sarcastic but this was the fastest way I could sum up my reaction to this game, for me I didn't believe the hype but still was irritated by the hype it had, and I had said that I'm not blaming you for the hype, but still this game was hyped and still even if the game wasn't hyped everything good or bad I say wasn't influence by the hype because I had no expectation, I played the hack with an open mind.
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    If the hype had not affected your expectations, game play or feelings for the game then why have such hate for the hype, it did no wrong to your experience?
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    I'm irritated by the fact that this game was praise as the ultimate hack but that didn't truly affect the experience of the game because I didn't believe the hype.

    Like I said I had an open mind about this hack and I played it from start to finish and never did they hype it had affect my perception of this hack.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You say this but it seems as though the hype brought upon this hack has affected your view in a negative way. I could understand if you didn't listen to the hype but just played the hack for pure enjoyment of sonic hacks but it seems you went into playing this to disprove the hype in a sense. "I'm irritated by the fact that this game was praise as the ultimate hack but that didn't truly affect the experience of the game because I didn't believe the hype." By saying this it seems as though if you had believed the hype you would have enjoyed the game more but because you didn't believe it you perceived the hack in a more negative way rather then enjoying because of the hype, although hype for anything means nothing, as well as others' opinions for everyone has a different opinion. Overall it just seems as though you're saying you would have enjoyed the hack more had there been no hype at all because you wouldn't be expecting something amazing and/or not expecting something great and that others' beliefs on the subject were false.
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    Nope, Let say there wasn't any hype what so ever, if that were the case would I enjoyed the hack more, I don't know but the problems I have with this hack would be the same because the problems this hack is not determined by the hype the hack had.
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    Then why care about the hype?
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    Because I hate hype in general.
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    And therefore to hate something which has no effect to this game at all will seemingly influence your overview of it.
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    Nope because the things I didnt like about this hack are things that no hype could affect, and keep in mind there isn't a lot I really hate, I believe most of the things I hate will be fixed eventually or at least Gorbichev, because from what I read he was incomplete.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I understand this but you seem to come in here stating a feeling of anger due to hype and not the game. If I were to quote you from a previous statement you did say "First of, yes the first line was a bit sarcastic but this was the fastest way I could sum up my reaction to this game, for me I didn't believe the hype but still was irritated by the hype it had"
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Oh no but im not angry about the game, juts pointed out a few things and like and didn't liked.
     
  8. Malevolence

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    <!--quoteo(post=368742:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:49 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368742">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368740:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:41 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:41 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368740">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368738:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:39 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368738">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368735:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:36 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368735">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368734:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:32 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368734">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368731:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:26 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:26 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368731">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368727:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:23 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368727">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368723:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:16 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368723">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368719:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:08 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368719">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368717:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:58 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 10:58 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368717">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368712:date=Nov 1 2009, 09:39 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 09:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368712">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368710:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:24 PM:name=iojnekns)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iojnekns @ Nov 1 2009, 10:24 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368710">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Look, I don't care if you bash it. You can bash it all you want. Just don't expect us to do what you want us to do and don't expect to take into account what you say. We might, but thats our perogative. I'm reacting because if the reason why you are being so outspoken and, saying stuff like "I finally got to play the best hack ever" in a sarcastic fashion is because the game was hyped up, yet we had nothing to do with the hype! How am I supposed to react? We're being treated in a certain way for something we had no control over whatsoever! I never once denied that it was hyped, but shag the vicar! We're really sorry if you let hype control your expectations but unlike 1's and 0's or pixels, thats one of the things we can't control. I'm not reacting becaue you're "bashing." That would be absurd. I asked for your opinions, I was fully expecting some less than impressed ones. For the record, I don't think any of you are dicks (or any other colourful word) simply for stating your views.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    First of, yes the first line was a bit sarcastic but this was the fastest way I could sum up my reaction to this game, for me I didn't believe the hype but still was irritated by the hype it had, and I had said that I'm not blaming you for the hype, but still this game was hyped and still even if the game wasn't hyped everything good or bad I say wasn't influence by the hype because I had no expectation, I played the hack with an open mind.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If the hype had not affected your expectations, game play or feelings for the game then why have such hate for the hype, it did no wrong to your experience?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'm irritated by the fact that this game was praise as the ultimate hack but that didn't truly affect the experience of the game because I didn't believe the hype.

    Like I said I had an open mind about this hack and I played it from start to finish and never did they hype it had affect my perception of this hack.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You say this but it seems as though the hype brought upon this hack has affected your view in a negative way. I could understand if you didn't listen to the hype but just played the hack for pure enjoyment of sonic hacks but it seems you went into playing this to disprove the hype in a sense. "I'm irritated by the fact that this game was praise as the ultimate hack but that didn't truly affect the experience of the game because I didn't believe the hype." By saying this it seems as though if you had believed the hype you would have enjoyed the game more but because you didn't believe it you perceived the hack in a more negative way rather then enjoying because of the hype, although hype for anything means nothing, as well as others' opinions for everyone has a different opinion. Overall it just seems as though you're saying you would have enjoyed the hack more had there been no hype at all because you wouldn't be expecting something amazing and/or not expecting something great and that others' beliefs on the subject were false.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Nope, Let say there wasn't any hype what so ever, if that were the case would I enjoyed the hack more, I don't know but the problems I have with this hack would be the same because the problems this hack is not determined by the hype the hack had.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Then why care about the hype?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Because I hate hype in general.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    And therefore to hate something which has no effect to this game at all will seemingly influence your overview of it.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Nope because the things I didnt like about this hack are things that no hype could affect, and keep in mind there isn't a lot I really hate, I believe most of the things I hate will be fixed eventually or at least Gorbichev, because from what I read he was incomplete.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I understand this but you seem to come in here stating a feeling of anger due to hype and not the game. If I were to quote you from a previous statement you did say "First of, yes the first line was a bit sarcastic but this was the fastest way I could sum up my reaction to this game, for me I didn't believe the hype but still was irritated by the hype it had"
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    Oh no but im not angry about the game, juts pointed out a few things and like and didn't liked.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Then was there a real reason for being sarcastic now that we rule out hype affected game play or anything to do with the game?
     
  9. randomselect

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    Okay really, the constant empty debating and the quote after quote doesn't really go anywhere.

    I don't understand why some people refuse to drop it.

    It's just a matter of whether you like it or not in my eyes.
     
  10. Epsilonsama

    Epsilonsama

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    <!--quoteo(post=368744:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:51 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:51 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368744">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368742:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:49 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368742">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368740:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:41 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:41 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368740">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368738:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:39 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368738">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368735:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:36 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368735">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368734:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:32 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368734">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368731:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:26 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:26 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368731">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368727:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:23 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368727">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368723:date=Nov 1 2009, 11:16 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 11:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368723">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368719:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:08 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 10:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368719">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368717:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:58 PM:name=Malevolence)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malevolence @ Nov 1 2009, 10:58 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368717">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368712:date=Nov 1 2009, 09:39 PM:name=Epsilonsama)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Epsilonsama @ Nov 1 2009, 09:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368712">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368710:date=Nov 1 2009, 10:24 PM:name=iojnekns)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iojnekns @ Nov 1 2009, 10:24 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368710">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Look, I don't care if you bash it. You can bash it all you want. Just don't expect us to do what you want us to do and don't expect to take into account what you say. We might, but thats our perogative. I'm reacting because if the reason why you are being so outspoken and, saying stuff like "I finally got to play the best hack ever" in a sarcastic fashion is because the game was hyped up, yet we had nothing to do with the hype! How am I supposed to react? We're being treated in a certain way for something we had no control over whatsoever! I never once denied that it was hyped, but shag the vicar! We're really sorry if you let hype control your expectations but unlike 1's and 0's or pixels, thats one of the things we can't control. I'm not reacting becaue you're "bashing." That would be absurd. I asked for your opinions, I was fully expecting some less than impressed ones. For the record, I don't think any of you are dicks (or any other colourful word) simply for stating your views.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    First of, yes the first line was a bit sarcastic but this was the fastest way I could sum up my reaction to this game, for me I didn't believe the hype but still was irritated by the hype it had, and I had said that I'm not blaming you for the hype, but still this game was hyped and still even if the game wasn't hyped everything good or bad I say wasn't influence by the hype because I had no expectation, I played the hack with an open mind.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If the hype had not affected your expectations, game play or feelings for the game then why have such hate for the hype, it did no wrong to your experience?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'm irritated by the fact that this game was praise as the ultimate hack but that didn't truly affect the experience of the game because I didn't believe the hype.

    Like I said I had an open mind about this hack and I played it from start to finish and never did they hype it had affect my perception of this hack.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You say this but it seems as though the hype brought upon this hack has affected your view in a negative way. I could understand if you didn't listen to the hype but just played the hack for pure enjoyment of sonic hacks but it seems you went into playing this to disprove the hype in a sense. "I'm irritated by the fact that this game was praise as the ultimate hack but that didn't truly affect the experience of the game because I didn't believe the hype." By saying this it seems as though if you had believed the hype you would have enjoyed the game more but because you didn't believe it you perceived the hack in a more negative way rather then enjoying because of the hype, although hype for anything means nothing, as well as others' opinions for everyone has a different opinion. Overall it just seems as though you're saying you would have enjoyed the hack more had there been no hype at all because you wouldn't be expecting something amazing and/or not expecting something great and that others' beliefs on the subject were false.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Nope, Let say there wasn't any hype what so ever, if that were the case would I enjoyed the hack more, I don't know but the problems I have with this hack would be the same because the problems this hack is not determined by the hype the hack had.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Then why care about the hype?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Because I hate hype in general.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    And therefore to hate something which has no effect to this game at all will seemingly influence your overview of it.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Nope because the things I didnt like about this hack are things that no hype could affect, and keep in mind there isn't a lot I really hate, I believe most of the things I hate will be fixed eventually or at least Gorbichev, because from what I read he was incomplete.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I understand this but you seem to come in here stating a feeling of anger due to hype and not the game. If I were to quote you from a previous statement you did say "First of, yes the first line was a bit sarcastic but this was the fastest way I could sum up my reaction to this game, for me I didn't believe the hype but still was irritated by the hype it had"
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Oh no but im not angry about the game, juts pointed out a few things and like and didn't liked.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Then was there a real reason for being sarcastic now that we rule out hype affected game play or anything to do with the game?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Is more a less to continue from what I left off last time I talk about the hack, nothing more.
     
  11. HighFrictionZone

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    In an effort to move away from the hype-discussion quote pyramid:

    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XweQ7NXOzwU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XweQ7NXOzwU</a>

    I'm at it again! More tool assisted running, but this time I'm taking mostly different routes with less re-covering of my own steps, resulting in a VAST improvement over my old act 1 time and a pretty good improvement over my act 2 time. I only managed to improve my act 3 time by two seconds, but I also illustrate why going off screen in act 3 is more bad than it is elsewhere: the fire shoots out to fill the screen, meaning you're in the hot seat as soon as the camera catches up to you. But hey, two second improvement, and it looks waaaaay more awesome now!

    Also, for some reason the video cut off before the act 3 tally. If anybody wants the gmv file I recorded, just kinda PM me.

    I'm really liking this game for TASing. Just as I'm learning how to be better at the game, I'm also learning how to be better at TASing.
    I think my next video will be a non-assisted speed run, just to illustrate that this is emulator trickery and that I'm not secretly a robot ninja.

    Edit: and could somebody tell me the method I should encode my videos so that youtube can have high-quality versions and also so that youtube mangles them the least?
     
  12. saxman

    saxman

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    I hate the discussion over this hack, mainly because I experienced this with ProSonic, so I know exactly how this feels. I know most people here (from what I've read so far) have been pretty respectful, but then I read this among a few other things:

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So I finally got to play the best hack ever, and thank god I was skeptic about this.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That was not a smart thing to say, with all due respect. How did you honestly think the team would take that? The rest of the message after that seemed to indicate that you had good intentions, but that line itself ruined everything you wrote because that line is an extremely negative thing to say. If this was my hack, that line alone, regardless what else you wrote, would piss me off. And the discussion on hype is silly -- that's created mostly by people who support the hack, not the team itself. Just try to think before you speak and consider other people's feelings when giving out criticism, okay? I know you're better than that.

    If the hack is flawed, that's fine. I thought it was flawed and got very frustrated when playing it! I was amazed by it, but it was just too hard. The first level felt like level 4 or 5, and the act 1 and 2 bosses both felt like final bosses or close to that! I would also recommend choosing some better voices for the Sonic Boom theme as they just didn't seem to fit well in my opinion. The other songs sounded amazing though (especially the DN3D song! WOW!) Again though, I'm willing to accept it's flaws. There's room for it to improve, and I believe the team is more than capable of doing it and will.

    Great job on this. Again, WAY too hard in my opinion for being the very first level, but I'm willing to accept that since it's not done. The stuff in this hack hasn't been done in any other hack I've seen to date. I'm truly impressed for what you have achieved thus far. If this was my hack, I'd be extremely proud of it. Keep it up!
     
  13. Icewarrior

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    Huh guys, it's okay to debate but could we avoid those fucking pyramid quotes please?
     
  14. Animemaster

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    Fair enough people have mixed reviews of things, but when you should stop you should stop. For anyone saying "this the best hack", well again its a matter of opinion. I like the unique, and technical side to this game which was very well done. Sure people complain about a few things but nothings perfect. As I see this, this hack has some major potential, and I defiently want to see this go further. Congratulations so far, and good luck with the rest of the project :)
     
  15. Epsilonsama

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    <!--quoteo(post=368835:date=Nov 2 2009, 04:45 AM:name=saxman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (saxman @ Nov 2 2009, 04:45 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368835">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I hate the discussion over this hack, mainly because I experienced this with ProSonic, so I know exactly how this feels. I know most people here (from what I've read so far) have been pretty respectful, but then I read this among a few other things:

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So I finally got to play the best hack ever, and thank god I was skeptic about this.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That was not a smart thing to say, with all due respect. How did you honestly think the team would take that? The rest of the message after that seemed to indicate that you had good intentions, but that line itself ruined everything you wrote because that line is an extremely negative thing to say. If this was my hack, that line alone, regardless what else you wrote, would piss me off. And the discussion on hype is silly -- that's created mostly by people who support the hack, not the team itself. Just try to think before you speak and consider other people's feelings when giving out criticism, okay? I know you're better than that.
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    Removed the controversial line, after reading the review again it seems a bit too harsh for the tone I wanted to give, it might give the impression that I hated the hack.
     
  16. Ice Sonic

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    <!--quoteo(post=368726:date=Nov 2 2009, 05:23 AM:name=NHY)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NHY @ Nov 2 2009, 05:23 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368726">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I enjoyed playing this hack but I'll agree the act 2 boss could do with a small bit of tweaking. I know its meant to be hard but crushing the player with little to no means of escape is just cheap, IMO.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What's wrong with a boss having an instant death attack? Blame your slow reaction.
    Seriously. Gorbichev is badass and no one should change that. Also how the fuck is the double jump useless? The other moves enhance the gameplay experience (the team did a very good job on that). The levels are so fast but there are still lots of paths and hidden rooms to explore. Speed + Exploration = win.

    Here's mine: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeRpnSN3iW4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeRpnSN3iW4</a>

    I've never had so much fun since S2RR. The music is fantastic. All those Megaman X ports sound amazing. The sprites are excellent. A bit too dark than we are used to but still very good. I freakin' love the spindash sprite.
    I could go on and do a full review on this but I'll spare the details. The hack is good.
     
  17. Selbi

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    4:26, pure win dude. Pure win.
     
  18. Travelsonic

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    <!--quoteo(post=368881:date=Nov 2 2009, 10:14 AM:name=Ice Sonic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ice Sonic @ Nov 2 2009, 10:14 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368881">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368726:date=Nov 2 2009, 05:23 AM:name=NHY)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NHY @ Nov 2 2009, 05:23 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368726">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I enjoyed playing this hack but I'll agree the act 2 boss could do with a small bit of tweaking. I know its meant to be hard but crushing the player with little to no means of escape is just cheap, IMO.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What's wrong with a boss having an instant death attack? Blame your slow reaction.

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    Yes, it always HAS to be the player's fault Ice. :tinfoil: That has to be one of the lamest justifications ever.

    Remember NHY, this is a prototype, things will change (hopefully).

    Ice, there is a reason most Sonic games don't have this, and this boss characteristic will (hopefully) be changed... it's called nobody wants to kill the replay value of their hack or game with completely broken characters/bosses. That's what insta-kill in this fashion (and there is a difference between bosses with a insta-kill move and this boss' current form) is - broken. Simple as that.

    As I got yelled at for not realizing before, this is just a proto, things are gonna change between this and the next release for sure.
     
  19. JDAdams

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    <!--quoteo(post=368998:date=Nov 2 2009, 11:19 PM:name=Travelsonic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Travelsonic @ Nov 2 2009, 11:19 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368998">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368881:date=Nov 2 2009, 10:14 AM:name=Ice Sonic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ice Sonic @ Nov 2 2009, 10:14 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368881">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=368726:date=Nov 2 2009, 05:23 AM:name=NHY)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NHY @ Nov 2 2009, 05:23 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368726">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I enjoyed playing this hack but I'll agree the act 2 boss could do with a small bit of tweaking. I know its meant to be hard but crushing the player with little to no means of escape is just cheap, IMO.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What's wrong with a boss having an instant death attack? Blame your slow reaction.

    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yes, it always HAS to be the player's fault Ice. :tinfoil: That has to be one of the lamest justifications ever.

    Remember NHY, this is a prototype, things will change (hopefully).

    Ice, there is a reason most Sonic games don't have this, and this boss characteristic will (hopefully) be changed... it's called nobody wants to kill the replay value of their hack or game with completely broken characters/bosses. That's what insta-kill in this fashion (and there is a difference between bosses with a insta-kill move and this boss' current form) is - broken. Simple as that.

    As I got yelled at for not realizing before, this is just a proto, things are gonna change between this and the next release for sure.
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    Gorbichev just does what the Globe Holder in Ecco - The Tides of Time does! Go play that - in its second phase the damn thing chases you round the (very small) room, intentiaonally trying to squash you against the walls. I actually find it more annoying there and that's a finished game. Curious also in that Gorbichev's helix move strongly resembles the Asterite from the same game(s). It's pretty rare to see Ecco influences in Sonic, that's for sure.
     
  20. <!--quoteo(post=368881:date=Nov 2 2009, 03:14 PM:name=Ice Sonic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ice Sonic @ Nov 2 2009, 03:14 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=368881">[​IMG]</a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->What's wrong with a boss having an instant death attack? Blame your slow reaction.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    There's a difference between an instant death attack and, say, having the boss teleport on top of you. (Trigger the thing Gorbichev does every 5 hits with an attack from below)
     
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