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Sonic 1 GBA

Discussion in 'General Sonic Discussion' started by Shakidna, Jun 23, 2006.

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  1. Stealth

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    Sonic Mania, HCGE, Sonic Megamix, SonED2, [...]
    "Undermine you"? I think that's a bit of a strange thing to say, given that the argument had to do with me pointing out a flaw in a comment. Anyway, I guess it was only natural. I just wish more people understood some of this. I don't expect everybody as individuals to be able to go off and build a perfect replica of Sonic 1 on GBA or anything like that themselves, but some of this stuff isn't nearly as hard to find/learn as everybody seems to think it is if they'd just get rid of all the fear and lazies
     
  2. chaosruins

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    Well, there really was no harm meant in my posts, perhaps I did take things too seriously, I just assumed that Sonic for GBA was a port, and a poor one at that. As said, I haven't researched into the making of the game as I've never owned a GBA and have never really wanted to.

    I assumed Sega at least still had some sort of code of the game and had ported the game over to the GBA, obviously not the case now. Then I saw your post and I for some reason saw it as a kind of attack, what was I thinking, I must have been in a seriously insane thinking process at the time, and I'm sorry if any peace was disrupted, as said, I like your hacks very much so and hope you continue the good work.

    Look at me lol, I must be coming across seriously deranged, well you can always check my past posts, I'm not that deranged lol...
     
  3. Metal Knuckles

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    Well, you seem to be coming off less "deranged", and more "frantic ass-kissing to save tail", but it's alright. You did overeact.

    This is the first time I've actually heard of this remake, and from what I've been reading in this thread, it would probably be better if I hadn't brought it to my notice at all. Sonic Team has been destroying the reputation of the Sonic series quite solidly these past few years, and any chance to show the younger generation that the original wasn't bad is destroyed with this. Now all our kids are gonna think that their parents were retards for enjoying a game like Sonic.

    ZOMG, first post in forever! One step closer to a membership!
     
  4. Quickman

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    Our children?

    You mean you expect most of the members here to procreate?
     
  5. Metal Knuckles

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    I suppose that if we wanted to get together for an effort as a lot, at least two or three of us would walk away with success. Also, it would be a good chance for me to confirm which gender Rika actually is.
     
  6. Billy

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    You never know, those people could have been not kidding when they said they'd have the babies of [insert member here]. =P

    Also, people should stop posting what's already been said a million times in this thread. Its been well established that the recreation of Sonic 1 on GBA sucks major donkey testes. Well, if you have something to add. Eh, whatever.

    Quickedit: lol member member.
     
  7. superstarCSB

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    When they were making the music, they should have just taken some of the Sonic 1 songs from Sonic Pinball Party. Go listen to the sound test. They sound so much better than this garbage. There's also a good Green Hill Zone remake (well a few of them) in Sonic Advance 3.
     
  8. Lostgame

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    Whoa. Bullshit. I program completely differently for the GBA than I do for the MegaDrive, for example. Even a difference in languages makes a huge difference on your programming style, but let's take, for example, how one would even program for the DS versus the PS2. Memory (or lack thereof) is a much bigger issue on the DS than it is on the PS2, so one would be careful in choosing which way one would do certain things in order to keep memory in mind all the time, when working with the DS, rather than caring a lot less and doing things an easier and less memory efficient way on the PS2.

    And yes, I understand that in a perfect programming world, no programmer would waste memory, but let's face it, in a corporate environment, creating that kind of optimized code for systems like the 360, PS3 and even Wii is not neccesary and not cost-efficient unless you want to do something totally crazy and unbelieveable-and even then, there are ways around it.

    I know lots of people who say nobody should be programming in anything but ASM and back up their points by showing how much easier it is to get incredible results in low-powered hardware, but nowadays, that point is null and void.

    So, yeah, that's bullshit.
     
  9. Stealth

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    Wow, you sure are snippy about real programming for being a goddamned TGF/Gamemaker/whatever-the-hell-it-was user. I don't know what you think you do now, but It must not be too terribly important or relevant to any argument with me if I haven't already heard about it. You've got some kind of stick so far up your ass that you missed my point entirely and took five words out of however many more completely out of context. You're certainly not winning any points trying to defend people who start slacking off disproportionately to the increased power they're given, which I don't see as having anything to do with what I was talking about in the first place

    Let me clarify what I said before you get a fucking hernia or something. The phrase "coding style" might not have been the best choice of words in the world, especially since what I was referring to is more a lack of any respectable style. However, how you accomplish your goals or solve your problems could be considered a "style", and I was referring to solving problems of math by using pussy teacher-taught-me-in-third-grade slow-as-hell math instead of bitwise math, which is something I mentioned before in this topic in the midst of some crap that had to get split out. So, if you can tell me how rewriting a game from the Genesis for the GBA makes you have to use multiply, divide, modulus, and 360degree style non-tabled trigonometry instead of left shift, right shift, AND, and 256degree style tabled trigonometry, then please, by all means, make me understand that a more powerful machine not only can't handle the same problem as a lower-powered machine, but also somehow FORCES you to use inefficient math in it's creation
     
  10. Lostgame

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    How, pray tell, if I'm on OS X, do I use Game Maker, or TGF, or any stupid fucking shit like that?

    Before you make stupid presuppositions just so you can get at people's throats, do some research.

    I've been using C/C++ since I was 11, and, asides from Cocoa and a little ARM, don't use anything else currently.

    Also, sure, the example about Sonic GBA is always terrible, because, let's face it. The people who programmed it are a disgrace. I've seen pong engines with a more potent physics engine than what the Sonic GBA team used.

    Lately, all I've really seen you doing with your posts is insulting people, and it starts major flamewars often. You may think you're doing good for the community, but that's quite the opposite. What's good for the community? SonED. SonED 2. Project: Mettrix. Sonic 1 CD. Helping people with their hacks instead of flaming every oppritunity you get.

    And now for a completely irrelavant and insulting response.
     
  11. LocalH

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    What? How in the hell do you figure that? The release of Sonic 1 GBA didn't magically cause my original Genesis cart to dissolve into nothingness.
     
  12. Quexinos

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    holy cow dude, Stealth got pwned... sorta

    I don't understand why so many people are fighting here... I mean... we all know the SOnic 1 Genesis sucks major ass, isn't that enough? :disgust:
     
  13. Tweaker

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    And you only got a Mac about a year ago, so yeah.

    EDIT: Also, Virtual PC, dur.
     
  14. Hez

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    I love how lostgames operating system somehow matters when it comes to Sonic 1 GBA...
     
  15. drx

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    I fail to see how he got pwned. Stealth made some pretty good points, as opposed to Mr. Lostgame.
     
  16. FinalBeyond

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    Jeez, it's like this game is giving people high blood pressures or something. Chill out, play the original Star Light Zone, and get back to the topic at hand.

    So, on topic... How much does this game suck, then? :P
     
  17. Quexinos

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    it doesn't, it DOES however prevent him from using Games Factory and Click and Create... Stealth took a shot at Lostgames assuming he was no more than a meer TGF or CnC user... but Lostgames said he can't be because they don't' make those programs for OS X... that's why I said Stealth sorta got pwned... not really pwned but he made a good point.

    let's read next time people :rolleyes:
     
  18. Tweaker

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    Yes, let's.
     
  19. Lath

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    Two days ago I installed Linux on my secondary HD, this is a very important matter on the subject of Sonic 1 GBA, even if I re-formatted it and put my files back on it and went on as normal.

    Really though, I don't see as though it even matters, Lostgame says he uses C, I don't see any reason not to beleave him.
     
  20. Stealth

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    No, I didn't get "pwned", you fucking morons. But you're about to be if you continue reading

    You don't know me very well if you think I jump into shit like this with only assumptions. You're either lying to me about having ever used those programs, or there are two people in the Sonic community named "lostgame", because that's also the name of the person who had a fucking heart-attack because I didn't approve them for my own messageboard, which I haven't paid attention to AT ALL in almost two years by now, and who also went to SAGE 2005 with a GameMaker game that used some of the art from Mettrix, which was very shortly preceded by this post on the GameMaker forum. You've also been called out about trying to insinuate that you've never had a PC with which to use those programs, which doesn't even completely prove your position anyway since there are PC emulator programs for Mac that could be just as easily used to run that kind of crap. IF, however, there just HAPPEN to be two "lostgame"s (a strange name to have two of) around here who both happened to have run into me and mentioned liking Mettrix, then I guess you'll have to excuse me.

    Good job, there. What have you done that I should know about that gives you the balls to start bitching at ME?

    Yes, that was the whole point. How exactly does that involve you getting in my face to tell me that I'm wrong because the state of today's industry somehow means that people who use bad programming practices still deserve the height of respect? It doesn't make any sense, it served no purpose. All you told me was that people with more power get lazier, and that's supposed to be relevant to a discussion about poor coding on a relatively small system like GBA?

    "Often"? This is the only time you could actually say I "insulted" someone at the start of a "fight" lately, and it was a mild insult at best. I wouldn't even call any of the recent fights "major", considering what "major" can really be. More often than not, as in the past, I just had something "negative" in general to say, and people looking for an excuse to fight me jumped all over it (take you in this instance, or the win/mac development thing, for example). You also stress "Helping" like I don't. I've been posting help more often than ever, which even though maybe relatively little in amount, is still more than when I just plain didn't post anything at all, and I've also been doing a little helping out OFF the board, and am doing more behind the scenes than you realize (so now who's making assumptions?). People like you just seem to have a problem with me expressing myself

    No, I believe that was your original post, with an irrelevant and relatively nonsensical sentiment, and repeating the word "bullshit", one instance being stressed with bolding
     
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