So I heard the Super Emeralds were a gimmick...

Metal Knuckles · Mar 8, 2007

I must be the only one who thought Saz was joking at first, and interpreted the "present proof" statement as an inability to accept sarcasm. =/

But yeah, SRSLY, save the gay furry talk for the thread on Sonic being real. Same crowd, samn ideals.

Aquaslash · Mar 8, 2007

Sazpaimon said:

Tweaker said:

Senn was with you, wasn't he?
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Nope, which is why I regret not recording anything.

Here's how I think he said off the top of my head:

"The way I remember it, it became apparent that simply getting the Chaos emeralds would be too easy of a task, so we decided to expand the concept of how the Master emerald works by creating the Super emeralds, whereby you will lose your chaos emeralds in order to get access to them, so there would be a bigger challenge. As a reward, the hyper forms were born.

Me: So they were really supposed to be canon to the game storyline?

Well, yes and no. They were supposed to add to the Sonic 3 story, but from a gameplay aspect, we just wanted to add some more challenge to the game."

I don't think I'm even supposed to be telling you guys this shit but I'm just too sick and tired of hearing fanboys bitch about this shit, so I won't go on from here.
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If that's the case, then that makes them both canon and a gimmick..in about the same league as the super form itself. It adds a little to the story and enhances the gameplay.

Well damn...now I gotta revert that retcon statement. :/

Sazpaimon · Mar 8, 2007

GrandMasterGalvatron said:

Sazpaimon said:

Tweaker said:

Senn was with you, wasn't he?
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Nope, which is why I regret not recording anything.

Here's how I think he said off the top of my head:

"The way I remember it, it became apparent that simply getting the Chaos emeralds would be too easy of a task, so we decided to expand the concept of how the Master emerald works by creating the Super emeralds, whereby you will lose your chaos emeralds in order to get access to them, so there would be a bigger challenge. As a reward, the hyper forms were born.

Me: So they were really supposed to be canon to the game storyline?

Well, yes and no. They were supposed to add to the Sonic 3 story, but from a gameplay aspect, we just wanted to add some more challenge to the game."

I don't think I'm even supposed to be telling you guys this shit but I'm just too sick and tired of hearing fanboys bitch about this shit, so I won't go on from here.
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If that's the case, then that makes them both canon and a gimmick..in about the same league as the super form itself. It adds a little to the story and enhances the gameplay.

Well damn...now I gotta revert that retcon statement. :/
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They were canon to Sonic 3, and pretty much Sonic 3 alone. Whether or not they still exist in the Sonic universe is up for debate, but they serve no purpose in future Sonic games unless the creators decide to write them back in for one reason or another (unlikely as Sonic team hasn't shown any traditional super form since SA1's last story).

Aquaslash · Mar 8, 2007

Sazpaimon said:

They were canon to Sonic 3, and pretty much Sonic 3 alone. Whether or not they still exist in the Sonic universe is up for debate, but they serve no purpose in future Sonic games unless the creators decide to write them back in for one reason or another (unlikely as Sonic team hasn't shown any traditional super form since SA1's last story).
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I get what you're saying. But you know how Wikipedia works :P

Metal Man88 · Mar 8, 2007

Mecha Sonic said:

I'm joking...
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Jokes like that aren't often.... appreciated in places like here.

For the same reason, I leave my bizarre non-sequitors and puns at home.

Except when attacking things which are dumb. Then it becomes really really fun.

But, yeah, the Super Emeralds are what they are; the gimmick title is unofficial and based on speculation. After all, if what Saz said is true, then its unlikely they hurled it in as some random game feature. Who says they won't reappear suddenly? Sonic Team is prone to digging into past games to make new ones. After all, Sonic Heroes borrows heavily on Chaotix.

In either way, the canon and how things relate to it in Sonic games rarely follows logic, so for all we know it could wind up being something important, or even dismissed from even existing, or... whatever.

Shadow MK2 · Mar 9, 2007

Well, I always just said that none of the enemies have been powerful enough for a need for the Super Emeralds. Think about it, Sonic 3K was the last game where Eggman was the final final boss (other than the Adv series and Rush, though in Rush, Blaze was there too). SA=Perfect Chaos, SA2= Finalhazard, SH=Metal Madness, and there were 12 heroes there, S06=Solaris, 3 super hedgehogs. It seems like Eggman's the only person capable of making something stronger than Super Sonic.

I know I'm wrong, but...meh.

Hez · Mar 9, 2007

I personally think...if I locked on Sonic 3 to Sonic and Knuckles and got nothing extra I would have been pissed. End of story.

So I heard the Super Emeralds were a gimmick...

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