Shadow the Hedgehog general hacking discussion

Discussion in 'Engineering & Reverse Engineering' started by ashthedragon, Mar 12, 2011.

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    <!--quoteo(post=569700:date=Mar 18 2011, 12:32 PM:name=Lanzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lanzer @ Mar 18 2011, 12:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=569700"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Wasn't he in a flashback of some sort talking to black doom? can't remember exactly.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2To1-uhSlwg" target="_blank">He was.</a>
     
  2. Ch1pper

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    That scene is probably what I was thinking of.

    I was under the impression Shadow met Gerald at the start of/within a stage at one point (The ARK, Lost Impact, etc.), for which Gerald would give Shadow instructions for a mission. I might be misremembering from when I did a small bit of digging through the game's audio - although a good 80-95% of that was hints, I do recall coming across a clip or two of Gerald. I distinctly remember the labels MR and GR for lines spoken by MaRia and GeRald.

    I'm tired at the moment, so I could easily be getting my wires crossed here. I'll pop it in and check up on it tomorrow.
     
  3. DinnerSonic

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    The only voice clips I found for Gerald myself like that were a hint bubble clip for Expert Mode and the related "Good luck!" if that's what you mean.

    I tried the debug level file swap thing with the file that was linked earlier, but the game starts off right under the geometry... anyone happen to have a moonjump code? I can also try and get a decent recording of some silly mixed up cutscenes with the Sonic model if I had that or the tools used to extract/swap/etc the .one files. Not at full framerate currently, though...
     
  4. Ch1pper

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    I don't remember what the line specifically was, but considering I never cared enough to play Expert Mode and thusly had no knowledge of said line before digging, that's probably the case. Thanks for the help there. :)

    Edit: "Shadow, it is I. I hear that my research experiments have escaped and are running loose! The positive and negative electrode connectors must have been reversed. I guess I must be getting old... At any rate, would you drop by my room? I'll be waiting for you."

    Good call. Thanks again.
     
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    <!--quoteo(post=569719:date=Mar 18 2011, 01:15 PM:name=DinnerSonic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DinnerSonic @ Mar 18 2011, 01:15 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=569719"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I tried the debug level file swap thing with the file that was linked earlier, but the game starts off right under the geometry... anyone happen to have a moonjump code? I can also try and get a decent recording of some silly mixed up cutscenes with the Sonic model if I had that or the tools used to extract/swap/etc the .one files. Not at full framerate currently, though...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><u>Don't forget to modify nukkoro2.inf.</u><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just copypaste everything from "highway" section to "city1" if you are not sure about values (look into nukkoro.inf for that)
     
  6. DinnerSonic

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    I feel dumb for missing that bit... anyway, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRyhbnOHcXk" target="_blank">here's</a> what I could manage of the test level recording.
     
  7. Herm the Germ

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    I tried putting the test-level-BSP into Heroes, but I guess that'd be pretty pointless as the textures can't be put into the game to display the stuff properly and I can't seem to put the proper collisions in, anyhow. Surprisingly enough, though, the game doesn't crash when chunks are replaced with this test-level in such a manner -- it just leaves hollow, transparent parts were the replaced stuff should be. :v

    At any rate, anyone else think the test-level looked kinda better as just a textureless 3DS-mash than it does in-game? :v
     
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    The last thing before leaving this thread. I briefly checked *.bon and *.mtp formats and now I almost sure that animations swap is possible with minor edits. This should solve every problem with skinning\bones. Now someone should try this and see if it'll work.
     
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    <!--quoteo(post=569700:date=Mar 18 2011, 05:32 AM:name=Lanzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lanzer @ Mar 18 2011, 05:32 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=569700"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=569509:date=Mar 17 2011, 10:31 AM:name=samourai23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (samourai23 @ Mar 17 2011, 10:31 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=569509"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->2011 hack of the year ? If some more work is made like swapping levels and making a real structured hack like making another "Sonic the hedgehog" game, yeah, it'll be for sure ^^

    But for now, I like to play as regular characters in route 101/280/Kart in SA2 better :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Wow...umm do you get the concept of a "joke" new guy? because he was <I>joking</I>. you know haha. lawlz and what not.
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    Well, I guess the american sense of humor isn't the same that the french one because no, I didn't get it was a joke. For now, I can only assume that you are clever enough to understand that english isn't my main language (you know ? I'm french, I just said it, like a second ago ;) ), and so I don't inevitably get every ironic things. But once again, I only assume you can understand that.
     
  10. Lanzer

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    <!--quoteo(post=569762:date=Mar 18 2011, 01:35 AM:name=DinnerSonic)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DinnerSonic @ Mar 18 2011, 01:35 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=569762"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I feel dumb for missing that bit... anyway, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRyhbnOHcXk" target="_blank">here's</a> what I could manage of the test level recording.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Awesome stuff. thanks allot!

    Think you can do some model swapping videos after you do the test stages?

    EDIT: I thought there was PC controller support for dolphin? why don't you use that instead of a keyboard?
     
  11. DustArma

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    <!--quoteo(post=569809:date=Mar 18 2011, 09:17 AM:name=Herm the Germ)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Herm the Germ @ Mar 18 2011, 09:17 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=569809"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I tried putting the test-level-BSP into Heroes, but I guess that'd be pretty pointless as the textures can't be put into the game to display the stuff properly and I can't seem to put the proper collisions in, anyhow. Surprisingly enough, though, the game doesn't crash when chunks are replaced with this test-level in such a manner -- it just leaves hollow, transparent parts were the replaced stuff should be. :v

    At any rate, anyone else think the test-level looked kinda better as just a textureless 3DS-mash than it does in-game? :v<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Well, the 3DS render does have global illumination applied to it.
     
  12. Herm the Germ

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  13. Techokami

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    So, will we be seeing rips of these other test levels? Or are we only going to get the first one?
     
  14. Shakidna

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    Could we at least get some camcorder footage of the test level?
     
  15. <!--quoteo(post=571105:date=Mar 21 2011, 02:29 PM:name=Shakidna)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shakidna @ Mar 21 2011, 02:29 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=571105"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Could we at least get some camcorder footage of the test level?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <a href="http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?s=&showtopic=24733&view=findpost&p=569762" target="_blank">http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?s=&...st&p=569762</a>
     
  16. Mystical Ninja

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    As good as that was, I'd much rather see footage of Sonic being playable.
     
  17. So let me get this straight

    Shadow with a gun = Everyone bitches and cries

    Sonic with a gun = Everyone's happy?
     
  18. DustArma

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    <!--quoteo(post=572614:date=Mar 25 2011, 06:06 PM:name=Irixion)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Irixion @ Mar 25 2011, 06:06 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=572614"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So let me get this straight

    Shadow with a gun = Everyone bitches and cries

    Sonic with a gun = Everyone's happy?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Nah.

    Shadow with a gun = Stupid

    Sonic with a gun = So stupid it goes full circle.


    :v:
     
  19. TheInvisibleSun

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    <!--quoteo(post=572614:date=Mar 25 2011, 06:06 PM:name=Irixion)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Irixion @ Mar 25 2011, 06:06 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=572614"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So let me get this straight

    Shadow with a gun = Everyone bitches and cries

    Sonic with a gun = Everyone's happy?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Most likely, people are more happy with the fact that one can hack the game into being able to do that, rather than Sonic actually using a gun.
     
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    <!--quoteo(post=572614:date=Mar 25 2011, 06:06 PM:name=Irixion)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Irixion @ Mar 25 2011, 06:06 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=572614"><img src="public/style_images/retro/snapback.png"></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So let me get this straight

    Shadow with a gun = Everyone bitches and cries

    Sonic with a gun = Everyone's happy?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You don't have to use a gun.

    You can slap everyone's shit with a street sign.