Sega should remaster Dreamcast Sonic Adventure 1 & 2

I think I said something like this in another thread but I'd love it if the people who worked on Better SADX and SA2B improvement mods could get together and pitch something like this to SEGA. Maybe throw Heroes in there for good measure :P

 

I think Sonic Adventure needs a fresh port from the DC version for modern consoles, but I'm not sure if SA2 does.

I know it has it's own issues, but unlike a quintuple-filtered SADX like SA1 has to suffer with, the 2012 port of SA2 is pretty much the same game but in widescreen and miniscule differences/issues that can be mostly gleaned over. Emphasis on "mostly" since I know the loudness of the sound effects could use a major tweak, lol.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the problem not so much that the sounds are too loud as that there's supposed to be a position-based audio system controlling their volumes, but it's completely broken in all post-Gamecube versions? Hence why everything's so obnoxiously loud in all modern ports.

(Seriously, after revisiting the game on PC I gave up playing after the first Tails stage - too much obnoxious noise with all the targeting/shooting noises at max volume the whole time...!)

 

SA2 doesn't need it. It's already perfectly functional on PC and the majority of problems with the battle version, are nitpicks at best. SA1 is a whole different story though, it definitely needs it's dreamcast original ported to PC since DX is an atrocity.

TBH I think a full remake is a good idea. Both of them are still pretty fun today and they're definitely on my top 10 list of sonic games, but they've noticeably aged in many, many respects and have definitely not held up as well as some of their contemporaries. A modern take on them would be great.
But that's a pipe dream, I suppose.

 

It really is fascinating that we have not received a Chao app. They could build a base Chao Garden that is included with every game going forward and allow for transferring between mobile and the game version, and incorporate exclusive incentives that you only receive from the game or the app to use in the other.

People may not like this proposal, but Sega could make each Chao an NFT that works with both the games and the app, allowing players to sell and trade them like a more entertaining CryptoKitties.

 

No chao NFT's please, ew.

 

Okay, I won't do it then.

 

i would love to race in versus, Green Forest especially if they only fixed collision and smoothness of the level, THATS IT.

 

I would be a lot happy with a official "Better SADX" being a thing. Something similar with the remasters / remakes of Sonic 1-3 but for Sonic Adventure.

 

I used to be against the idea of an Adventure remake but I've really turned around on this lately. I kind of want to see Sonic Team remake Adventure just to see how they would handle Sonic's movement and physics and if any of that Adventure design would carry over to a new game.

 

No idea how feasible such a project would be, but I'd really love a hybrid of both Adventures, taking the Chao Garden, mission map, and perhaps physics & movesets from SA2 along with the relative non-linearity and hub worlds from SA. New hubs would need to be crafted, but the assets are already there.

Beyond the pipe dream, I just want a fresh port of vanilla Adventure for Switch.

[Edit] Ooh, and since Big was unjustly excluded from SA2, aside from his cute cameos, this hybrid should also include new ponds based off of those cameos.

 

I really want a widescreen Sonic Adventure collection with SA1 (w/ the dreamcast conversation mods), SA2 and Sonic Heroes. I’d like them to add “Nights into Dreams” as well since it’s already been remade, Nights’ cameos in SA1 and 2 and obviously Ohshima and Naka worked on it. I also think it would be brilliant to pare this collection with a chao app.

Now I’m going off into crazy fantasy land... but since SADX included roms of the game gear games wouldn’t it be awesome if this hypothetical adventure collection included the fan made remakes of SMS/GG Sonic 1 and 2? How about Sonic Triple Trouble 16 bit? It would be wonderful for all these fan devs to get paid by Sega. Heck I’m already in crazy land... so what if Sega got Jon Button to make a widescreen Director’s Cut of the Saturn Version of 3D Blast?

In my fantasy collection all those games would be unlocked from the start... but what if there were additional emulated games you unlocked by getting emblems. And what if the collection had a total emblem counter so you wouldn’t have to grind out a specific game to unlock most of the bonuses. Additional emulated games could consist of the remaining non remade SMS/GG games, the 16 bit spinoffs not included in Origins, Knuckles Chaotix, Sonic the fighters, Sonic R and Sonic Shuffle. Again: none of this is reasonable to expect lol. I’m just daydreaming on main.

 

At the very least the Adventure games need patches and updates. SA2 is still broken jank worse than the Gamecube Battle version despite supposedly trying to be more like the Dreamcast game, and SA1 is still 4:3 with a low resolution and bilinear filtering over the screen, as if trying to pretend it's an emulation of the GC DX release, with the worst problems of all the ports in one fell swoop.

I don't think they'd get proper remasters, but it's sad how at this point it's become expectation that the fans have to do what Sega doesn't.

 

My position remains "just get consent to shove all the mods that fix the games' problems in there". Yes, the PC versions of SA1 and 2 exist, but they're not exactly bringing in millions of new players after ten years. Most people who even mention they're going to play them get BetterSADX or the SADX mod installer shoved in their face anyway. It's worth getting all of the biggest fixes together and providing them to console players. Not just because more people deserve to play these cool games without having to download a hundred mods (I just checked, my current combined mods is exactly 100), but also because mending their reputations a bit by showing them at their best would be a huge boon to good fandom discourse.

EDIT: I just checked and I guess if you go for the bare-bones "fixed vanilla game" options it comes out to only about 56, but most of the mods I use make sense as additions for a remaster anyway.