Sega Pico/Beena Thread.

Discussion in 'General Sega Discussion' started by Kiddo Cabbusses, May 9, 2010.

  1. Yes, last I checked.

    As far as I've seen and heard Pico and Beena are not compatible in terms of hardware specs, but don't quote me on that.

    I got dates and serials noted at least in a good chunk in my big Sega Retro list of JP Pico release although it is not complete;
    http://segaretro.org/Japan_Region_Pico_games

    The Pico dumps come with storybook picture scans as par per course with the dumps but IIRC we don't have any coverart or manual scans.

    I don't think anyone in the whole of Sonic/Sega Retro has a Beena to my knowledge. There are two for sale on ebay;

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEGA-TOYS-ADVANCED-PICO-BEENA-HPC-0700-CONSOLE-SYSTEM-JAPAN-/140737216426?pt=Video_Games&hash=item20c4977faa

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEGA-Beena-advanced-PICO-game-console-released-2005-only-Japan-/180862971260?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a1c45ed7c

    And one game, a Pretty Cure one.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pretty-Cure-MAX-Heart-game-SEGA-Beena-released-2005-only-Japan-/180862972893?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a1c45f3dd
     
  2. Andlabs

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    2004? eh, I guess it's not particularly totally interesting as a Nintendo game on a Sega system unless you really wanted to underscore the console wars... this Sega Titan Video game from 1999, on the other hand (though it's arcade so it works both ways, argh)

    anyway:

    T-300010 KUMON PUBLISHING (two with the same code?)
    we have T-300 WARP

    T-227010 NAYUTA
    we have T-227 Vantan International/Electric Dreams

    T-226110 SHOGAKUKAN
    we have nothing for T-226; T-105 Shogakukan Production

    T-193030 SEGA YONEZAWA
    we have nothing for T-193 but what is Sega Yonezawa
    T-193010 DIAPET/SEGA YONEZAWA
    and what is Diapet

    T-181010 OBUNSHA
    we have nothing for T-181

    T-170020 GE
    just to make sure, you mean General Entertainment, right?

    T-169100 GAKKEN
    we have nothing for T-169

    this is where having the boxes will be nice

    EDIT ugh it's the original list that uses the romanized names
     
  3. Sik

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    Fusion... (A/C switch pages, B is the big button, mouse to use the pen, I think Start switched between both screens)
     
  4. Well, I can't figure out how to do any sort of touch tablet control in Fusion, and it doesn't appear to load up the .png pages on the various dumps.

    The sound is more accurate, though. hrm.

    Andlabs: All that info is more or less pulled off the JP list without much more of my own input other than what games have US equivalents.

    I'll append some of my own thoughts:
    The "Shogakukan" one is probably right because of all the Doraemon games it's tied to.

    I'll assume you're right about GE. It matches up, anyhow.

    I tried looking up an article on Yonezawa and got this; considering the Diapet connection this is likely what's being referred to.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yonezawa_Toys

    Based on the dates of the releases, I'm assuming Sega Toys released some earlier titles under the Yonezawa name before they relaunched the Pico for the "Kids Communication" line under their own name.
     
  5. Sik

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    First of all, make sure to capture the mouse (I think it was F12, I don't remember the shortcut right now). You may also need to set the first controller as Mega Mouse, but I'm not sure if this is really required (probably not, since it's a completely different device).

    Fusion won't show the book pages, only the screen =/
     
  6. Black Squirrel

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    http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=28494
     
  7. Bizarrely enough, when Sega Toys continued the Pico under the "Kids Communication" line they continued the HPC first-party game codes rather than using the code they used under the Sega Yonezawa name -or- starting the codes fresh with a new set.
    This makes the relationship between Sega and Sega Toys appear highly confusing, from my perspective.
     
  8. Andlabs

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    Sega Toys also had a unique T-series number for their Dreamcast games. I'm still a bit confused as to who handled the Pico — I thought it was all Sega Toys, but apparently not?
     
  9. Basically, from what I can tell, Sega Toys started handling Picos in terms of hardware selling and game making/publishing in a large scale around 1999 or so. The "Kids Communication" line n particular is their brand.
    Before then, the standard models were handled by Sega.
    Complicating this further, Imagineers' "Hirameki Mirai Kids" and Yamaha's "MIXT BOOK PLAYER COPERA" were handled by hardware licensors.

    http://segaretro.org/Sega_Pico_Models

    Dang, when did pictures break in there? Hrm...

    Anyhow, the most complicated thing about the Pico seems to be trying to figure out what Sega and Sega Toys' business relationship is, since they seem to flip-flop being acting separately and acting as one when it's convenient.
     
  10. Overlord

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    No PAL pictures? I'd take some of mine if it wasn't in a bloody hard to reach place...
     
  11. It would be a good idea to find PAL Pico pics. There's probably a good amount of Pico variants, considering Team Europe's ROM dumps have Pico games in various, different languages including French and German.

    More pics of Korean-model Picos and games would be good, too.
     
  12. Black Squirrel

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    Gentlemen,

    http://segaretro.org/Sega_Pico

    this needs improvement, but I consider it "better than before"

    also apparently there are 296 Japanese Pico games to make articles for. Have fun.
     
  13. If it helps any, I've been recording Pico game ROMs and putting them on Youtube - in order of my own perceived interest, mind.



    If anyone has any specific requests, feel free to toss them at me. Of course, if the ROM isn't dumped, there isn't much I can do... but aye.
     
  14. http://blog.daum.net/picoplus/10524311

    #sega decided to check daum for Korean Pico stuff, found this page.

    EDIT: Bunch more linkage time.

     
  15. Taking this no-intro post here;

    Does anyone here want to fund getting me a Retrode and this adapter?
     
  16. Overlord

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    I hope he's not destroying decent quality Picos. >_>
     
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    I don't want to be held responsible for Pico destruction...
     
  18. Sik

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    I suppose it may be a better idea to buy broken Picos where the cartslot still works (which would mean he'd destroy non-functional hardware anyways and ripping apart the working parts for something else).
     
  19. From what I recall, PAL Picos should be similar to US Picos... but eh, I'll bring this up.
     
  20. Black Squirrel

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    Presumably there are other methods of dumping Pico games, what with the existence of Pico game dumps. Unless those methods destroy Sega Picos too.