don't click here

Sega Harmony findings megathread

Discussion in 'General Sega Discussion' started by Ted618, Apr 27, 2022.

  1. RyogaMasaki

    RyogaMasaki

    0xffffffff Oldbie
  2. Black Squirrel

    Black Squirrel

    shaving is boring Wiki Sysop
    7,327
    1,304
    93
    Northumberland, UK
    hey wiki you're so fine
    There's a timeline, and some points contradict what we've got on the wiki.

    For example, Harmony says Periscope came out in 1965. We're saying 1966... but our references are much newer than Harmony. I'm inclined to think the more modern books are wrong - are the more modern books wrong?


    Also a 1977 Breakout clone called "Rainbow Block" (レインボー ・ブロック) - there's no evidence online of this ever having existed.
     
    Last edited: Oct 2, 2022
    • Informative Informative x 5
    • List
  3. Ted618

    Ted618

    Member
    315
    174
    43
    That timeline seems to be making the big claim that Rodeo was the industry's first pinball machine to use solid state microprocessors. It wasn't, as one or two do predate it - but it certainly was among the earliest ones.

    We are, however, looking at what is the first ever UFO Catcher patent here, filed by Tomoji Miyamoto:
    [​IMG]
    The first generation machines aren't often seen now, with their design not truly perfected yet. I did read somewhere that they apparently even caused some injuries, though I'm yet to take that with more than a grain of salt (people also claim that an R360 outright killed someone).

    Always nice to see more high-quality photos from Ikebukuro GiGO's earlier days surface too - one of the much wilder initial exterior facade from a Shotenkenchiku book turned up before, but this is all far better than those previously seen in the Game Machine coverage. Said coverage also gives out a different opening date to Sega's, further investigation may be needed there.
     
    • Informative Informative x 3
    • List
  4. Black Squirrel

    Black Squirrel

    shaving is boring Wiki Sysop
    7,327
    1,304
    93
    Northumberland, UK
    hey wiki you're so fine
    On the subject of arcades, it also lists

    Koutou Tsutomu Tenchi Game Ba (江東務天地ゲーム場)
    and
    Hibiya Gun Corner (日比谷ガンコーナー)

    as venues Sega opened in June 1960. Which is very early.


    Hibiya Gun Corner actually turns up some results on Google so may be possible to find.
     
    • Informative Informative x 2
    • List
  5. Ted618

    Ted618

    Member
    315
    174
    43
    As far as I'm currently aware those were both opened by Rosen Enterprises, but since the Nihon Goraku Bussan merger Sega has historically treated them as theirs on some occasions. In recent years they've stopped doing that to instead say 1965 was the start of their operations business, which seems more accurate, however seeing as those locations were indeed under them after that point in time, Retro still probably needs pages.
     
    • Informative Informative x 2
    • List
  6. Black Squirrel

    Black Squirrel

    shaving is boring Wiki Sysop
    7,327
    1,304
    93
    Northumberland, UK
    hey wiki you're so fine
    Other things we didn't know about, just for completion's sake:

    - New Skill Diga (ニュースキル・ディガ), a crane game from 1980. We knew of the earlier Skill Diga, Super Skill Diga and Group Skill Diga machines, but not one this late.

    - The DP-11 from April 1982. It's a change machine (or dispenser) - we have other change machines but not that one.

    - Super Derby (スーパーダービー) from December 1984. Though we could probably guess that existed since we have a Super Derby II page.
     
    • Informative Informative x 3
    • List
  7. RyogaMasaki

    RyogaMasaki

    0xffffffff Oldbie
    Last edited: Oct 2, 2022
  8. RyogaMasaki

    RyogaMasaki

    0xffffffff Oldbie
  9. Black Squirrel

    Black Squirrel

    shaving is boring Wiki Sysop
    7,327
    1,304
    93
    Northumberland, UK
    hey wiki you're so fine
    [​IMG]

    GONGS

    Looks like an arcade version of Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots. I'm not sure if this was released(?)

    From Amusement Machine Show 1993, alongside early Daytona, early "Virtua Fighters" (with Shiba!) and, new to me, Star Wars Arcade before it got a cabinet.
     
    • Informative Informative x 3
    • List
  10. Ted618

    Ted618

    Member
    315
    174
    43
    It's not obvious from the photos available, but those early versions of "Virtua Fighters" had readers that let players buff their chosen characters with random product barcodes. Apparently a Gogo no Kocha was the barcode to beat.

    Star Wars Arcade did have a cabinet at that point - although it never made any other appearances, as far as I know. Namco must have been taking some notes, as the later Star Wars Battle Pod bears more than a faint resemblance.

    And we've been over this on here already, but Sega World Yamanakako is notable for being a stone's throw away from Sega's old company resort, which unsurprisingly seems to have some coverage alongside the "Around the AM" page.
     
    • Informative Informative x 2
    • List
  11. RyogaMasaki

    RyogaMasaki

    0xffffffff Oldbie
    Another nyuushashiki issue, but there's some nice shots of the Lock On at least.

    Sega Harmony #119
     
  12. Ted618

    Ted618

    Member
    315
    174
    43
    I actually thought the previous issue like this was a bit better - because all of the new hires were profiled with photos and brief nuggets of info, you would get fun stuff e.g. this one with Shinichi Ogasawara. (He's dressed in what looks like some sort of low rent Game Center Arashi cosplay, for some reason, and cites a 1993 feature from long-gone British music paper Melody Maker about "video games killing rock n' roll" - yes, really)

    The back page "Around the AM" is of particular interest once again, as it's about Sega World Shizuoka this time - well over a year after first opening in September 1991, as Japan's largest game centre up to that point. What had changed since?
    [​IMG]
    It seems to have acquired a Cyber Dome some time after that opening, as all of the initial press about it available in the likes of Game Machine doesn't seem to note its existence. This likely took the place of the venue's CCD Cart, another very early attraction made just as Sega was ramping up research and development teams like AM5 for the advent of Joypolis.

    Neither are well documented, but at least Cyber Dome has some footage.
     
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2022
    • Informative Informative x 3
    • List
  13. Black Squirrel

    Black Squirrel

    shaving is boring Wiki Sysop
    7,327
    1,304
    93
    Northumberland, UK
    hey wiki you're so fine
    It's one of those cases where it's probably super interesting, but it needs translating first

    [​IMG]

    Here's a bit. The lad between "Sonic with a neck" and "lucha libre with microphone" is apparently Yoshiyasu Furukawa, Japan's best Sonic 2 player, as decided at the "Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Zenkoku Senshuken Taikai" (ソニック・サ・ヘッジホッグ2 全国選手権大会), or "national championships" for us gaijins.

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Guess you got a coin for taking part.



    Of course, the true master of Sonic 2 would know... it's not really geared up for tournament play. I mean yes, there's a two player mode, but...

    [​IMG]

    Tails spawns behind Sonic, so is always at a disadvantage.


    That and it's a subset of the full game and the layouts were altered for (what we presume are) performance reasons. I guess you could do a score attack for single player but that's frought with issues.
     
    • Informative Informative x 3
    • Like Like x 2
    • List
  14. RyogaMasaki

    RyogaMasaki

    0xffffffff Oldbie
    Those coins are always up for sale on YAJ/Mercari, I've been meaning to pick one up eventually.

    Lucha libre there is wearing the Sonic 2 "超音速アクションキャンペーン" (Supersonic Action Campaign) hoodie, one of which I ave in my collection:

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Informative Informative x 1
    • List
  15. cartridgeculture

    cartridgeculture

    Wiki Contributor Member
    i have to stop drinking tea while reading the forums