PSO2 Discussion

Discussion in 'General Sega Discussion' started by Krigo, Jan 24, 2012.

  1. GregBFM

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    From what I've been told by other players, Sega got DDOSed, changed IP's and didn't tell other ISP's. Accident or not, PSO2 was Japan only until ISPs obtained corrected internet paths. Some players still need proxies. TOS forbids connecting from outside Japan, yet Ship02-Ur is FULL of English speaking players. Sega indeed seems to look the other way.

    There is a bit of uncertainty and paranoia going on regarding bans (especially the dreaded Error 816). The two things I most consistently hear to be dangerous: Pissing off a Japanese player, or using a proxy. One theory goes that Sega hates proxies for legal reasons - to stop SouthEast Asia players from abandoning AsiaSoft's version (terrible microtransaction pay to win nightmare, way behind on updates) for the original Sega version. Meanwhile, nProtect GameGuard likes to crash the game for random programs being open in the background, including Avast! AV, Google Chrome and the PSO2 Tweaker.

    As far as 'region lock' goes the game is playable but the barriers to entry and risks (starting with the CAPTCHA boss and ending with a potential ban at any time) are indeed pretty high. I wish instead of localizing they instead would make an official English (Steam?) client which sends players to Japanese Ship 02 by default, legitimizing our presence rather than turning a blind eye to it -- and hire on a community-driven translation project.
     
  2. Morph

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    This is so baseless. It's more likely that they got reported for sitting in block 1 posting porn symbol art all day than using a proxy given that there are over 700 concurrent users on PSO2 Proxy at any time.

    PSO2 Tweaker was erroneously marked as a cheating tool by nProtect, but Sega quickly corrected it. And a majority of users on PSO2 Proxy using PSO2 Tweaker also use Google Chrome with no issues. PSO2 Tweaker also has measures to work around the issue built in now, so there's that as well. (I work on PSO2 Tweaker, but it's not my project)

    That would be pretty awkward if they get a large enough playerbase seeing as ship 2 was full at one point. Won't happen. And to sort of reiterate on the ban thing, you're really no more likely to get banned than any Japanese player unless you're just being a generally awful person ingame.
     
  3. GregBFM

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    Hmm. Debunked, then. Good point. The simplest explanation of "people being (or spamming symbol arts thereof) dicks" is indeed probably closer to the truth than anything else. No one I personally know ingame has been banned yet, but some of the people I run with were / are nevertheless quite paranoid (superstitiously so) about 816 in particular, esp. the correlations (but maybe not causations) in reddit re. 816 and proxy, sega and SEA, etc. Fortunate that none of them spam such symbol chats. Theories or whatnot otherwise, I'm just gonna play the game and accept the risk I might be banned for no reason without warning just cuz I'm not from within Japan, just to soften the blow if it actually happens.

    Re. Tweaker - was meant to be in past tense. I am actually aware of Sega correcting that issue + the Tweaker's GN Field workaround. In fact that was actually kind of heartwarming to see them fix that, showed they actually kind of cared. Still strange that they have the double standard with the Terms of Service though.

    Re. the last bit - Ship 02 local client - yeah, I know, it was one of those "and I want a pony too" things, but it's just what I wish. ;)
     
  4. Morph

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    Ah, I misinterpreted that bit. I honestly think that part of the terms of service is just so that they don't have to try giving support to somebody in English for a game that's not even in English in the first place =P
     
  5. GregBFM

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    No worries, as I said I miscommunicated in the first place -- and LOL, probably!
     
  6. sonicblur

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    I completely missed this announcement that happened a few day ago:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPD7k2GvFYs


    Looks like I might have to pick up PSO2 again at some point, and maybe re-subscribe to FFXIV for a bit when they get PSO2 content. (It has been confirmed that the collaboration goes both ways, but FFXIV has not yet decided what PSO2 themed content to include.)
     
  7. Jason

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    Microsoft drags PSO2 from Japan, kicking and screaming, to North America for Xbox One and PC. No announcement for EMEA.
    I'm not familiar with the game, but the fact that this game is finally being localized is going to be big news for some people here.
     
  8. Mecha Sally

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    Well shit... here I had given up entirely. I almost had a fit about it being on Xbox until I saw it was going to be on PC too. If it was Xbox only I would have broken something (just bought a PS4).
     
  9. SoNick

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    One of the replies on twitter sums up my thoughts perfectly:
     
  10. Sonic Warrior TJ

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    Yep. Me too. I got so used to the idea of never getting an official release. I mean...this really feels like too little, too late, and it's still almost a year away.
     
  11. Overlord

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    Nothing for Europe though! =/
     
  12. sonicblur

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    Japan is already on PSO2 Episode 6. The fact that new expansions are still being produced for it at least implies that it could continue to be active unless Sega starts ignoring it shortly after release.

    The "Powered by Azure" logo in the corner makes me wonder if the US release will be streaming-only like the Switch version. That would prevent cheating since no users would actually have the game on their machines, but on the other hand it would suck up a lot more bandwidth.
     
  13. Overlord

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    Could simply be they're using Azure servers for the server end.