Official "Zone Builder" Thread

Basically this! It annoys me setting every tile to L/R/B or All Solid v.v



Just used ESE and noticed that it had a total ring count...perhaps an object/ring count? afaik S1/S2 have a ring limit in each level :s

 

I'm very pleased with this; now if only this was a full successor to SonED2 which needs to be replaced severely. Though this zone builder is a huge step towards something better. Great work, and I can't wait to put it to use!

 

Looking forward to this too, maybe I'll pull my finger out and actually piss around with some level editing now!

 

saxman, I didn't find out about this until today and I just wanted to tell you how delightful this new level editor sounds. I hope you are able to accomplish every goal that you've made for yourself in making this new editor as accessible as you want it to be.

 

I hope future versions will have support for more games, like Sonic 1, Sonic 3, etc. This is looking to be a good SonED2 successor already.

 

sonic CD support?

 

That would be awesome! Everytime I rip into Sonic 2, I find myself changing so many things that SonEd2 can't support it anymore. STILL can't wait for a release!

 

This sounds awesome. I might actually care about trying to hack again.

If you're going to make this work with Sonic 3, I'm wondering, since Sonic 3 has several segments where you'll press switches to open doors or drain water, will connecting a switch to an event be easy? As in, no programming involved?

 

Actually, there are lots of Sonic 1 hacks nowadays, probably more than Sonic 2 hacks, mainly thanks to Hivebrain's 2005 disassembly, which is very good and intuitive, leading dozens of people to (correctly) believe that Sonic 1 is currently the easiest game to hack. When you'll decide which will be the next game you're going to support, you should go with Sonic 1. Also because Sonic 3 doesn't even have a complete split disassembly yet (though Varion is working on one).

 

yeah I agree with Nineko we Sonic 1 hackers will be very grateful if you consider the option for Sonic 1 as well. But anyways looking forward to this, I never got the chance to learn SonED2 properly so something like this that looks easy to edit will be very welcomed. Keep up the good job

 

I can't help but notice in the screenshots that there are no objects—I'm assuming that bit isn't in yet—but when/if it will be in, will there be an option to make your own art? SonED 2 for example, kind of 'supports' it, but it is very difficult to get new art in, not to mention aligning the object to the art is very tricky and time consuming (such as adding new art for objects that are currently undefined [?])

 

PM'd you Sax :D. I hope I can be of help.

 

Wow, this really sounds like a dream that began to become reality.

I think I had two major events when I began looking at the hacks made by the community. The first was the 'entry barrier' - aka, the volume of texts and things you need to learn before you even dream of doing your own hack. I had to read, then read more, read even more, and then a little more to have a superficial notion of the process of hacking. And that wasn't really a problem, but required a long time, something that is very rare for me.

But what really ruined my mood, and crushed my willpower, was the time required to perform simple modifications in a ROM. Positioning rings, tiles, virtually anything requiring a long time. Worse still, when I started trying to import new art into the game - as some have said here, the problems are already huge before you even began to solve the collision issues. Although I was making progress, it was too slow, and there wasn't much time to devote to it. In the end, I decided to abandon my project.

TL,DR; you're my hero.

 

Now I am. I just hope it really works with MJ's Project Two-Eight, since it's basically Sonic 2 in Sonic 1.

 

Cool!

A few things I'd like to ask for, when making grassy levels its a bitch to raise the tile a few pixels up which spreads the whole tile into 2 tiles. The tile space isn't a problem, but will it be possible to move the tile by 1 pixel to either sides (up/down and left/right)?

A thing I would like it to look like is a grid with the tile, and all the outside parts are were the tiles will not display in game (the cropped edges) but you could still copy the outside parts to save time.
If that wouldn't be possible, then maybe a way to copy pixels over to a new tile. Also a combination of buttons letting you change the current pixel displayed (so if you accidently put a pixel with colour X, click some button to change to colour Y)

I hope it isn't too much to ask.

 

Please do this. Ah heck please just add the whole shibang. This is already ending up as something a 1000 times better than SonED2, it'd be pointless not to add every thing.

 

If it can edit Sonic 2, then it'll be able to edit the Two-Eight engine no problem, seeing as all the files get "converted" from S2 to S1 correctly upon building.

I drooled, that is fantastic! I see someone's been busy =)