I think you guys are getting way too hung up on this Liam Robertson dude. Admittedly, I can't blame you, the thread IS framed around him, but what he said was only the catalyst for me deciding to bring something up in the Discord that I'd been quietly considering anyway. He's not the only one who may have some connections that I've seen say something that's made me concerned about this. Everyone knows about what Zippo said in his blog, and that's been litigated to death, but I also remember what the Chief Brand Officer for the series said about classic versus modern last year, and what Tyson Hesse said here a few months ago about how not even Mania had convinced Sega to go all-in on Classic Sonic. Like, quite honestly, my first reaction to these things was to reject them, kind of be in denial about it and figure, "Eh, Aaron Webber's a higher-up now, he's one of us, and LOOK AT THE RECEPTION, I'm sure more Mania's coming," but we're getting comic artists asking us to write in if we want more Classic content, which tells me, again, there's a possibility that someone somewhere needs some convincing. And sure, maybe I'm just reading too much into these things. But they start to stack up, y'know, especially when it's been four years and we still haven't heard the slightest rumbling of a Mania follow-up. (That said, I definitely agree that Origins may be an important benchmark for this, especially if Evening Star is involved.) Yeah, but here's where the SA3 comparison falls flat: Mania 2 wouldn't need to be an incredibly expensive, incredibly risky sequel to a couple of highly divisive games from decades ago, where most of the people involved in the production (and all of the voice cast) are no longer employed at SEGA. Mania, rather, was functionally the last Sonic game that people outside of us diehards actually remember, *and* it got a better critical reception than anything the brand had done in 20 years. The majority of the team that made it is still both present in the industry AND still working together. I'm not talking to BadBehavior specifically here, but rather to everyone: If you want to offer something constructive, that's fine, but if you're just coming in here to cynically remind everyone, "Hey, it's no use, they won't listen anyway," then... I mean, I don't know, you VERY WELL might be right, but some of us would like to try anyway, and what harm is there in that? I'd rather be proactive and fail to make an impact than do nothing and wonder later whether I could have.